Scroll down. TiddlyWiki is outdone by SilverBullet, which is only 3 years old.
It is what it is. I think the nature of that software differs quite a bit though. Most of these are highly hierarchical wiki/note environments (e.g. Nextcloud Notes, Joplin) which have a limited interface when it comes to linking and re-using information.
I recognise most of these and had a quick search for the others. I would say Obsidian (if set up a certain way), Outline, AFFiNE, Silverbullet and Logseq are closest to TiddlyWiki.
This is a survey for people who self-host (by implication for others) and we know from our own survey that most users use TiddlyWIki in a personal capacity. So we are looking at a very technical userbase in this survey, but Obsidian makes it very easy to share your wiki or just parts of it (which needs a custom solution in TW) - as well as having superb documentation, and I think that all contributes to its popularity.
I don’t think self-host implies “for others”.
Possibly, but Bookstack for example is quite high up and it is explicitly designed for small-to-medium enterprises, beyond just personal use. It has rich permissions features, for instance, and other aspects around the idea of multi-user collaboration.
But I will concede that we don’t know for certain how the participants use these applications, and it may be unwise to make assumptions on the aspect of sharing a wiki.
i tried memos ( not a fan , couldn’t get flat files storage settings working , sql lol 
)
before returning to tw ( which is edging toward sql 
)
but tbh for the most thought less (just drop the files on any httpd or in ./files 
)
“web view md notes” mdwiki really shines …
until… ( you consider writing your own “gimmics” then its back to JS/square one )
tiddly wiki is like some kind of Interdenominational portal you can put text in to
… and modify the “portal spell’s” if you like ** but you get to keep the pieces ( or sometimes only your memory of them 
)
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That’s why I create https://github.com/tiddly-gittly/TidGi-Desktop and try to beat Obsidian Why is TiddlyWiki Beaten by Obsidian? , I will release it to public when reach v1.0 with WYSIWYG editor. And see if we could at least get 1 / 10 of Obsidian’s user back here.
At least TidGi’s website is self-hosted with TidGi and a home computer https://tidgi.fun/ .
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i had though about this and tbh
my thoughts keep returning to zerodevx/zero-md
“Ridiculously simple zero-config markdown displayer”
.GitHub - zerodevx/zero-md: Ridiculously simple zero-config markdown displayer
i think markdown becoming non-standard standard
is big part of that why
its less md-viewer-thing vs tiddlywiki
and more markdown vs (tiddly)wiki-text
every thing is markdown ( i just found a “web-book” i bet its markdown … yep )
who ever can link their md-viewer-app-package with all the people looking for a markdown viewer
will get more users
id guess!
-edit-
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2004-01-01%202025-12-01&q=markdown&hl=en-US
In most time, I don’t use markdown or wikitext, I use WYSIWYG editor. And most of normal people does this too, even Obsidian users. Focus on “normal” user instead of geek users can get more users.
while this survey is interesting
it made me wish for something with a focus on wikis in general !
and i just happened to find this mention of a “pod cast” sort-of-about wikis
in fact #meta made me wander if a forum just about wiki software exists
probably too niche subject
( also wrt to tw users : Take the TiddlyWiki Community Survey 2025 )
i get your point , but … the survey is about self-hosting which i guess is kind of special interest
idk what brings ppl to tiddly wiki tbh
i heard / read some where a post from (timany? maintainer afair) why they moved on from TW
ahh its hear Notes by category
im hear on occasion still trying to re-live my youth full memory’s of
.Delicious (website) - Wikipedia
Search results for 'del.icio.us' - Talk TW along with a few other it seams
thinking a bit and making comparison between wiki’s should provide more insight in to the casual user perspective of other software
and what better place for such things than
…sort of the opposite perspective to
thinking & comparing wiki’s
is
users want to not think about them and just use them
to do the ting they are thinking about (quickly)
unobtrusive / functional software ftw * imho
I think there’s an interesting dynamic between the idea of TiddlyWiki as a note app vs wiki. I feel like there’s always been a gradual influx of new TiddlyWiki users who are looking for a Roam, Obsidian, or Evernote replacement. I still use a mix of both plain text file in folders and TiddlyWiki although I am always trying to fold more information into TiddlyWiki. I think it’s an interesting thought experiment to imagine there are no “casual” users but rather users who value certain features more so than others.
People who self-host value this digital autonomy vs people who are comfortable putting a folder full of notes in Dropbox. People who use Word or Google Docs may value WYSIWYG or just the ability to collaborate with other people who are less technical. The great thing about TiddlyWiki how there are a wide range of users who value different aspects of the software and might really use it in different ways. I would suspect people who self-host are not all using TiddlyWiki in the same way and I would be curious if there’s anything different they do with TiddlyWiki. IE, do they prefer single file or nodejs?
Obsidian and Joplin are not self-hosting per se. They can be self-hosted, just as TW can. So it’s a fair question why TW, after 10 years, didn’t even make the list, while other projects much younger did.
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Most astonishing to me is that Nextcloud Notes is Number 2.
Because the Nextcloud Notes really offers nothing special, the impressive place in this survey mainly shows the importance Nextcloud itself has reached as a plattform,
Thus it would be very usefull to have an Integration of TW in Nextcloud, perhaps as a DockerApp
Nextcloud provides a toolkit for this
Oh yeah, it’s unimpressive. I think most people who use NC notes are using some other app (Qownnotes, Quillpad) to access them. It’s mostly the idea that you can have some kind of centrally located note ready at any time that moves it to the top.