A multi-column Layout / Storyview

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#476

Good question @HistoryBuff

It depends on whether you want current the state saved or not. When you toggle the button, it adds/removes a $:/tags/Stylesheet tag to the css tiddler $:/plugins/ahanniga/storyriver/css. The tag switches on/off the CSS that splits the view.

Altering the tiddler flags it as dirty and shows the wiki needing a save.

Cheers, Aidan

#477

Thanks for the response.

Ok, that makes sense. Supposing I didn’t want to save the configuration unless I explicitly hit the save button (like what happens when state tiddlers change), what changes would be necessary to your plugin to make this happen? I ask because I can see situations where I would switch layouts back and forth dependning on what I’m doing. In this case, I’d like to be able to exit without it asking me whether I should save or not because I may not be sure of what other changes may have occurred.

#478

Hi @HistoryBuff I’ve updated the plugin so that if no changes are pending, then toggling the view will not itself set the “dirty” status. Let me know if any issues, thanks.

#479

Ah! Thanks, so far it works perfectly! You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir! Even works with reordering. Amazing!

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#480

Hi,

I was looking for something that combines the advantages of @BurningTreeC’s multicolumn theme and the browsing experience of Krystal and your variant of Krystal Muticolumn is pretty close to what I’m looking for and a good base for further customization. But, unfortunately, I can make it to save any changes and in the only wiki variant that doesn’t save. Krystal multicolumn just sends the “starting to save” message and then nothing happens. If I reload the page I get the usual warning about the page asking me to stay to not loose changes and the reload shows Krystal Multicolumn in same status as I downloaded, without any changes made by me whatsoever. I tested several saving methods and they work with any other TW variant, but not with Krystal Multicolum.

How can I made Krystal Multiculom support the saving experience common in all TW variants?

Thanks in advance,

#481

https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/

Try this site…it’s is the latest version…but I have disabled Krystal plug in for the time being because of an error message which pop ups on starting the wiki for the first time as reported here. I will re enable it for you when I am back on my desktop.

Regarding the saving issue, i didn’t understand it fully. Did you downloaded a copy of the demo wiki and tried saving in this downloaded version. As far i understand only the owner can save a tiddlyhost wiki.

#482

Thanks for your quick response. And yes I tried to save a local copy of the downloaded wiki without any success, even when other local savings are working fine. I use Timimi and TW5-server as ways to save local copies of my wikis and the original variants where I start my customization. I was unable to save the local copy of multicolum-krystal with any of the usual methods, despite working well with other local TW variants.

I will test your new suggestion and come back with more feedback.

#483

@arunnbabu81 I tested the last wiki at https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/ and still I’m unable to save local changes at the downloaded wiki.

This are the steps to reproduce the problem

  1. After downloading multicolum-krystal, I open it in Firefox, where I have Timimi installed, as shown by the fish icon in (1) and the opened wiki doesn’t have any changes to save, as shown by the grayed out save icon at (2) in the screenshot below:

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  2. I create a new tiddler (2-1) and now the saving icon appears blue (2-2), but when clicking on saving, despite getting the “Starting to save message”, the icon continues with the same color (instead of graying out again, like in other local wikis) and when I reload the page, the usual warning about losing information is showed and then the originally downloaded wiki is shown again, discarding all recent changes in the local copy.

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#484

https://simon.tiddlyhost.com/#Download%20link%20demo

I have added a download button in the page controls as discussed in the above links. Try it now.

#485

How did you download the wiki initially?

#486

I guess this will solve the problem

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Go to settings and remove all inputs from the tiddlyspot saver
Now try saving- it should work now.

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#487

@BurningTreeC

Happy to say that I use MCL daily and it works nicely.
In case, you have missed some of my previous suggestions, I am listing them here again for ease of access.

  1. Shift clicking on search results from command palette or default search doesn’t open the tiddlers in the next column.
  2. In full-screen mode of a tiddler, invoke command palette and click on search result - newly opened tiddler becomes visible only after we come out of the fullscreen mode.
  3. Ability to use filters for story field of ensemble tiddler as discussed here - 1 and 2.
  4. Emptystory message for each ensemble as discussed here
  5. Shift click on clone button shall open the new tiddler in next column.
  6. Shift click on tiddlers in tiddlytools calendar or links in BJ’s calendar tool, dosen’t open the tiddler in next column.
  7. If possible make jump macro compatible with MCL as discussed here.
  8. Can the second sidebar also be made adaptable to the story river.

Edited on 21082022:
9. Close-all button variant to close all tiddlers in all columns.

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#488

Thanks! This solves the issue. What confused me was that I have not set up this before for any of my TiddlyHost hosted wikis, so despite playing with the “General” save options, never went to the “TiddlySpot Saver” as I thought, wrongly, that they didn’t apply to TiddlyHost.

I’m now saving local copies https://krystal-multicolumn.tiddlyhost.com/ without any problem. I’ll share the modifications back when we have the them.

Cheers,

PS: I downloaded the wikis using curl from the command shell.

#489

Ciao Simon @BurningTreeC and all,
congratulations on the idea and its implementation.

Replying to the original post, I add some thoughts for further development:

I see it is possible to focus tiddlers and do some commands (close, edit tiddler) with keyboard-only shortcuts. This is great. Extending this idea, I’d suggest:

  1. To speed up operations → working on frictionless multiple tiddlers selection, as described here
  2. To solve the issue of having too many (possibly conflicting) keyboard shortcuts → implement vim-like key bindings. This is possible through Vimium’s Links Hints functionality

, also:

  1. Ensemble manager → a system to quickly move/copy tiddlers from one ensemble to another, duplicating/archiving ensembles, etc.
  2. Integration with Muuri story view → possibility to partially switch automatically to Muuri when appropriate (for example to watch photo galleries)

best wishes and thanks,
dam

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#490

Ciao @arunnbabu81 & @damscal, I’m an enthusiast too. :slight_smile: And your enthusiasm & feedback is spot-on useful.

  • One of the most interesting things about MCL is that each column is a semi-independent Story River. That opens a lot of flexibility in design.

  • It also has a few caveat emptors mainly to do with how to inter-link between Rivers.

FWIW, @BurningTreeC (Simon Huber) has a second life in the South Tyrol of Northern Italy where he writes, performs and produces music …

Tamisch Bleibm - YouTube

But I’m sure he will return to here in time and polish his great tool! :slight_smile:

Best, TT

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#491

There are some signs of his return in github :grinning:. I saw a few commits made by him in the MCL repo.

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#492

Hi all,

yes I’m back :wink:
But I’ve lost the overview in this thread.
I’ll create a new one where we gather ideas and requests

Best wishes,
Simon

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#493

What is the license to use this in a commercial product (a book) ?

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#494

I love the long elf shoes on the bottom image. :slight_smile:

#495

Hello @jamesmclellan

the license is MIT
feel free to use it in your product :slight_smile: