Hi All,
I’ve tried Obsidian but I couldn’t get the hang of it. But I found it completely different from TiddlyWiki. I don’t think TW has anything to worry about. Different purpose; different flavour.
What I can say for certain is that I’ve learned a lot about computers through TW’s filters, advanced, lists, widgets, fields, etc…
Could I liken the comparison of Obsidian to Tiddlywiki as Google Maps to OpenStreetMap.
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Long live the TW. The Agnostic Boss!!
This is probably a little silly, and I haven’t scanned this topic thoroughly enough to know if this has already been mentioned, but “Tiddlywiki” is just heard, at least in American English, as sort of a silly name compared to “Obsidian.”
I have literally never had a conversation with a non user about Tiddlywiki where I have not had to have a massive sidebar about why it’s called Tiddlywiki – and oftentimes, even after I’ve explained it, the name still gets giggles from them every time.
This doesn’t bother me, since I don’t really feel much pressure for TW to become “popular” and zeitgeisty the way obsidian has striven for – and honestly would have reservations if this was being seriously discussed – but if I were going to make a marketing level suggestion, it would be to pick a name that sounds like “rock eagle freedom Knife” or something like that.
Despite being a proud tiddlywiki user, who is not especially self conscious about things like this, I do find myself sidestepping the name at times in discussion, simply for practical reasons – and that’s a massive problem for widespread adoption.
Git has a silly name too. This didn’t stop it from becoming almost a monopoly.
I disagree with this assessment (being something of a student of linguistics).
Git is a short word, one syllable, and uses primarily “hard” sounds (G and T) – in English, these are characteristics of “Strong” sounding names. It also doesn’t really have any connotative connections to other words – ‘get’ might be the closest, but that is not a word with strong imagery associated with it.
Tiddlywiki, on the other hand, starts strong, but softens in the middle, giving it a more playful sounds. Lots of words in english, undercut hard sounds by doubling them up and adding ‘ly’, making them sound more playful or childish (diddly, giggly, fiddly, wiggly, squiggly). Also, it sounds quite a reminiscent of “Tiddlywinks” which is a child’s game (and a bit of an archaic one at that).
On the other hand, we have “Obsidian,” which is literally a stone, one which has significant importance to the species and was essential to toolmaking. It does not round in the middle, rounds on the ends and the d represents a hard stop in the middle.
Also consider another previously silly word: “Google” (a misspelling of the mathematical term “Googol”), which is similar to a baby’s “gurgle” (nonsense babbling), or perhaps “googly eyes”.
And, before Google, we had “Yahoo!” Yahoo (Gulliver's Travels) - Wikipedia which Swift described as “filthy with unpleasant habits… a brute in human form”.
For my take on the meaning of “TiddlyWiki” see: https://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#WhatsInAName.
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A “hard sounding” insult which is also not common in american-english – I’ve only heard it used in the context of british TV or movies. In American media, closest use is in the context of Cowboy Flicks ("'git along")
also has a hard sounds in the middle – and, as you point out, is undercut if you add an ‘ly’ as in “googly”
I don’t think gullivers travels is most people’s reference for yahoo, lol, it’s evocative of “Yahoo” as in celebration or excitement. And also, yahoo is not a widely popular platform anymore for a reason 
Very good read, though, and I agree the assessments you make there.
I really have no motivation in arguing that it’s an especially silly word – like I said, I like the name fine and don’t really care about user-growth. I can just say confidently, from personal experience, that it’s a very silly sounding name to most Americans. While, as you point out, there are other words that have some of the silly characteristics I’ve described, none of them have all of the silly characteristics about ‘Tiddlywiki’ particularly.
I do have a hunch that if (read ‘when’ or ‘as is happening’) American English declines on the world stage, TiddlyWiki will gain popularity 
I’m not sure if TidGi app is a good name, while I checked it with GPT3.5 before (It was only 3.5 at that time). TidGi is my solution to match Obsidian, it contains WYSIWYG editor and Calendar etc. that Obsidian has out-of-box, so comptetion is fair.
I’ve translated TW to 太微 in Chinese, which is a good name.
TidGi
TaiJi
太微 <<< if possible help me to understand this
Thanks
Are great names
I love TiddlyWiki and lots of respect to you all
But it’s a pain in the neck to type to communicate verbally or as filenames etc
It’s too cute
I end up naming my folder filed TW5… etc
I remember tiddlywinks age 7 in England 
It’s was fun and full of surprises
and we learned skills to go with quasi random physics.
Part skill ~ Part luck
Playing guitars with a pick (plectrum) for 50+ years now likely uses tiddlywinks early muscle happy fun memory!
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Which =~ kind of the beauty and pain of TiddlyWiki
especially when trying to serve it up for non-programmers or people who have real projects they are seeking a platform to use.
To publish edit select re-format & grow
I complement TidGi for terrific recent effort to make it more widely accessible = more useful software.
But also for a cool short name
Kudos everyone
In regards to a stronger name for tiddlywiki, I have made a comment regarding an alternative for a name that would likely be taken more seriously by non users, and linked it to a preexisting thread for anyone curious.
A post was merged into an existing topic: Let’s brainstorm a name for the next version of TiddlyWiki
I would also be interested in learning more about your translation, @linonetwo
TidGi doesn’t really ring correctly to my ear, the best I can do is if I pronounce it such as “Tidgy,” which at least had the benefit of rolling off the tongue, but I don’t really understand where the Gi comes from (Gittly I always assumed).
And I personally would want to find something that communicates something about the core philosophy. Obsidian sounds “cool and hard” but I think it also lacks this core philosophy ideal. Notion is a fantastic example of a name which has both – it is a catchy, sticky word that’s easy to say and also very clearly evokes imagery that’s reflective of its purpose and philosophy.
As I’ve said here and elsewhere, “Tiddlywiki” is a good stab at what a name should be – but that’s wildly undercut by the fact that “Tiddler” is not a very common word anymore, and so it needs explanation. I’m fairly well-read, and the only place I’ve ever seen the word Tiddler is in a John Steinback book.
So nobody likes my name idea then?
I agree; “TidGi” sounds a bit awkward in English. The d-g combination with both letters pronounced separately (d as in “dog”, g as in “go”) is not terribly common; it feels a little more natural with a soft “dg” (as in “edge”), but it’s not a particularly pleasing sound. It doesn’t communicate much, meaning-wise… though the soft dg “tidgy” pronunciation is very close to “titchy” (meaning something small and insignificant).
I think “TidGit” would make the GitHub reference more obvious while also being easier to pronounce…though I’d still be tempted to pronounce it like “tidget”, to rhyme with “widget”. And the “tid” prefix remains largely meaningless to anyone not already familiar with TiddlyWiki.
On the other hand, “TidGit” is most of the way to “tidbit”, which isn’t a bad name in and of itself. For me, it evokes a tasty morsel of food or an interesting bit of trivia, both of which are generally positive… and you can assemble a lot of tidbits into something substantial and perhaps delicious, much as we use tiddlers to create full-featured apps or knowledge bases.
Agreed, I think there’s something to TidBit
“Tidbit” is a bit of a diminutive.
There is also a commercial line of foods using the name “Tidbit”, which might cause trademark issues.
What I like about it is that it communicates clearly something about the product, namely that we prioritize information to be stored in its smallest bits. I think TidBit would be a fun name for a “lite” version of Tiddlywiki But I do agree, it’s missing the second half of the philosophy, which is the nonlinear wiki nature of it
“TiddlyWiki” is a portmanteau that combines the concepts of “small” and “quick”
Although the term “tiddler” (or “tiddly”) may be a less well known and somewhat diminutive word, it avoids drawing upon unintentional implied meanings that other more recognized words may carry.
As a branding identity, it’s relative obscurity may also be considered an advantage, in that it helps to highlight TiddlyWiki’s uniqueness that differentiates it from the bulk of other “personal information management” applications it may be compared with.
“Tiddler” also lends itself as a good metaphor for the philosophy of TiddlyWiki; specifically, it is a common British term for a small fish (the Three-Spined Stickleback), and embodies the concept of a school of fish, distinct and separate as individuals, but moving in a naturally emergent coordinated manner to produce a beneficial combined and coherent behavior.
The term “wiki” was chosen by Ward Cunningham in 1995 to describe the very first database-driven website intended to evolve through organic, non-linear growth from a minimal framework to a fully realized presentation.
Derived from the Hawaiian word “wiki wiki” meaning “very quick”, it is evocative of the manner in which a TiddlyWiki “document” can be initially created with little to no advanced planning and then refined/refactored later to incorporate a wide range of sophisticated data relationships and interactive workflows.
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P.S. for your enjoyment, I offer “Tiddler: The Story Telling Fish”, by Julia Donaldson:
Yup, I understand, and I personally find the name philosophically accurate and even quaint. And have stated, am comfortable with it being a nonissue - - however, I believe that in the context of increasing userbase, it is a bit confounding to continue to advocate for a name when there is wide acceptance that it is, for various reasons, not ideal. 
To each their own, but to write off public opinion as someone else’s problem is a bit counterproductive to the project of “increasing the userbase,” imo.
太微 means “very slight”, “infinitesimal” if it is translated literally, and its pronounciation (tài wēi) is similar to TiddlyWiki. This may be similar to @etardiff 's tidbit.