After https://keepandroidopen.org/ started floating around pushed by F-Droid, is it time to have a discussion here about it?
Will this affect Tiddloid? The new app developed by @BurningTreeC is not an option for me.
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I use TidWeb still for Tiddlywiki on Android and I’ve never been happier with it.
I’m shocked that Google will no longer be a platform that supports small open source developers – am ready to jump ship once there truly is an open source mobile option.
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I am not looking at this in much detail but if there was no “Paying a fee to Google” would people be prepared to comply otherwise?
I don’t think the fee is the biggest concern. It’s a one time $25 payment. Contrast that with Apple, which charges $99 every year.
I think it’s that people have to use government identification, losing all anonymity and possibly putting themselves in danger, particularly if they’re trying to avoid direct government scrutiny.
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Warning the following is my opinion, perhaps even a RANT: Base your decisions on evidence not opinions.
Thanks @Mark_S for your viewpoint.
Whilst I believe in Civil rights we in Australia tend to think of the government as our elected representatives and Public Service rather than something to fear. This allows us to avoid this race to libertarian extremes where “government” is a word or a conspiracy.
- Without representation you are at risk of manipulation. Government must be made to represent us.
In Australia many of us can ask organisations, government and the legal system to take steps to stop anonymous bad faith players trying to rip us off with Malware, miss and disinformation. Keeping in mind we must remain ever vigilant, sceptical and keep our government to account.
To me any system that allows people to totally hide, permits them to rip us off, abuse us and profit from others suffering. If you want examples of this look around it is every where. For example almost every day people have cryptocurrency to the value of millions through to hundreds of millions of dollars stolen or laundered.
- Whilst we must allow anonymity, and whistleblowing in some cases, consider Wikileaks, and look at how that has faired. this needs more work.
With all due respect this is the greatest risk to my country, the influence of the United States libertarianism and conspiracy theories, anti government forces and Laissez-faire capitalism
is an economic system with minimal to no government intervention, emphasizing free markets, private property rights, and supply-and-demand-driven, unregulated competition.
- While I support these to some degree never in its extreme forms.
Whilst I always remain sceptical, I think forcing accountability is the only way forward. We should stop defending the indefensible.
how about if there was no “Google trying to act like yet another wannabe internet police”, collaterally hurting my TiddlyWiki user experience on a smartphone (which I started to use only a couple of years ago for entirely non-technical reasons, and which I’ll strongly consider abandoning if the status quo shifts against my needs)?
while shifting into adjacent aspects like social or legal ones elaborates more on the issue, you’ll have a hard time trying to convince me to “comply”. as an English self taught foreigner having a slightly more vast experience in terms of living in different political systems than the average Westerner, I perceive “comply” as the US countryside police dude threatening to shot a car driver through the window if the driver fails to volunteer surrendering his rights that the cop is supposed to protect. obviously, I instinctively take the most defensive-aggressive stance.
but as I said above, I find focus on technical aspect more useful
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