June has arrived. Time's up for Timimi?

Don’t know if this is helpful or not, but I’m using the latest version of the Thorium Browser and Timimi is still working just fine in it.

Thorium is using Manifest v3, but many of the older extensions are still functioning under it, to my understanding.

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Thanks very much @Mark_S !

This potentially worked in Firefox, but I couldn’t get the .zip extension to work correctly for Chrome. As I am a tinkerer more than a tech expert, here’s what I did, with a new user profile (so as not to affect usual timimi installation):

First, I downloaded the .sh file, and installed it via terminal with these commands (in Terminal):

  • cd Downloads + enter (this is where I downloaded your revised .sh file to);
  • chmod u+x timimi-mac-arm64-250606a.sh + enter; and
  • ./timimi-mac-arm64-250606a.sh + enter.

This resulted in a nice Installation successful message: hooray!

Then I downloaded an empty.html file from https://tiddlywiki.com/ However, on loading empty.html into Firefox, changing the TW title, and saving, at first it simply saved in the usual “download only” way – appending (1) after empty, so there were now two files in my Downloads folder (empty.html and empty(1).html).

As I could see no replacement Timimi extension for Firefox in the files you kindly shared (the .sh file seemed for the “Timimi backend” from @Riz 's excellent Timimi installation page here), I decided to install Timimi via its Firefox add-on page here. Then, saving worked in the usual Timimi way. I tried back-ups to the Downloads folder, and that worked as expected too. If I didn’t ruin the experiment by installing the usual Timimi add-on as well as your revised “back-end”, @Mark_S , then thank you very much indeed – it works great!

I tried to sideload the Chrome extension (by unzipping it, then going to Chrome extensions, enabling developer mode, and then clicking “Load unpacked”, and running the extension). However, while the Timimi fish icon appeared as an extension, I think this revised Chrome extension may need some amending: when I loaded empty.html into Chrome and made changes, then saved, the “File saved” message appeared, but no saving happened – and on reload /refresh (cmd + R on macOS), only the original, standard empty.html file was loaded, with all changes having disappeared.

I hope this information helps! I will be travelling for the next two or three days, and visiting family, but I will aim to log in to TalkTW in a few days time to check in, and see if there is anything else I can do to help, or if you need further information.

All best wishes, and thanks very much again @Mark_S for these efforts: if I did the Firefox update correctly, then that at least works as expected, and is perhaps already a “victory”! :wink:

Simon

That’s because our primary concern here is about Chrome. The peripheral issue with FF is that the same host (executable) file is use by both Chrome and FF. So it’s good to know that that didn’t break.

There is one other step. It was part of the timimi original instructions:

Ensure that Allow access to file URLs is checked.

Do you know if you did that ?

Thanks!

I think it should have given you a choice what extension you were installing for. Did you select “chrome” ?

June is here, and it seems like only 3 people are missing Timimi. Maybe it’s not as relevant anymore.

I found a compiler for windows. (Inno)

I’m thinking of moving away from “timimi” and towards “TiddlySpark”, partially in honour of @FSpark who rewrote the manifest and partly because “spark” is more meaningful to most people.

Among many other things, we’ll need a new icon…

This should work with windows and the side-loaded (see prior posts) timimi extension. It should also work as the host for firefox which can still use the Firefox store timimi extension.

In full disclosure, 3 out of 72 of the vendors at Virustotal thought there was something malicious about the code. But those vendors weren’t ones I had ever heard of:

Bkav Pro, DeepInstinct, SecureAge

The name-brand scanners (Avast, Avira, Google, McAfee, etc.) found no problem. So I suspect these are false-positives.

Bkav and SecureAge also flagged the original timimi as malicious, so they may be hyper-sensitive.

It would be good to hear that it works for someone else.

Does anyone know what edition Riz wrote his opening page in? –

https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/#Important%3A%20Post%20Update%2FInstallation%20instructions

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@Mark_S You meant Tiddlywiki edition? If yes, it’s a theme called clevernote i guess

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Are you willing to try tiddlystow version 2 (this is what @Mark_S is referring to as “new TiddlyStow”)?

It currently has the limitation that your single file wikis have to be stored the same directory as each other. In most other ways, it is better than tiddlystow version 1 (my favorite feature is that each wiki has its own bookmark-able url).

See Tiddlystow version 2. Now supports more browsers for more details and screenshots.

So in this thread there is now a timimi fix for linux, windows, and possibly Mac. But there’s been almost no response. Is everyone at the beach? Crisis averted, I guess.

There’s no sense in pursuing this further if there’s no interest.

make it 4! i just haven’t been active on this thread because i don’t have much experience designing/fixing web extensions. timimi was unmatched for ease of use in my opinion.

For what it’s worth, I use Timimi every day, but hadn’t commented in this thread as I use Firefox exclusively and thus haven’t encountered any issues to date. I do think it’s the best single-file saver the community has produced thus far, and I recommend it (and Firefox) whenever I recommend TW. I’d love to see it adopted for ongoing upkeep!

Thank you Mark! I am definitely interested in the Windows fix, and will hopefully look at it tomorrow. Blessings

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It’s worth mentioning which operating system(s) do you use. Out of curiousity, I have just searched for “timimi” in the Extensions dialog of Firefox for Android - it found like seven extensions, yet none of them was Timimi.

Sorry, I should have said: I use Timimi on a Windows 10 device, and I installed it directly from Timimi — One saver to rule them all — which I also recommend doing, as it requires a downloadable .exe in addition to the browser addon. It has historically supported a range of desktop browser/OS combinations, but I don’t believe it works for mobile devices.

That’s just the way their search engine works. Behind the scenes they’re guessing that you’ve misspelled your search term and are looking for “related” terms.

Timimi doesn’t work on Firefox for Android, as indeed most of our favorite extensions don’t. I see that the 7 extensions returned include ones with only one or two users.

Definitely add me to the list of users!

Windows 11, Thorium Browser, latest TW.

I’m just looking for the simplest solution available for single-file TW’s, and Timimi has always provided that for me.

I’d love to experiment with a Node installation, but after four failed attempts down through the years, I’ve all but given up on it…

I’m in the same boat: Windows 10 user of Firefox 139.0.4 (64-bit) for editing the wikis.

All other devices use Chrome for read-only access of copies in Dropbox.

Hello!

First of all, apologies / oops: I did not select Chrome when installing the back-end (I just installed for Firefox, assuming that only Firefox needed the back-end installed!)

Secondly, thanks for your patience! I’ve just installed the backend for Chrome as well, and now your revised version works flawlessly (as far as I can tell) on Chrome – the wiki saves correctly after I create and save a new tiddler, and a back-up TiddlyWiki HTML file is created as expected: so your tweaks seem to work equally well for both Firefox and Chrome. Happy to do any further tests but I think your updates work: wonderful!

All best wishes

Simon

Hi @Mark_S

If I don’t respond any time soon it is because a) we are busy getting ready to leave for the State for 5 months in early July and I still have a lot to do plus a trip to Tabasco for several days in a week.

And b) I downloaded the tiddlyspark file and the addon Chrome zip file. Wasn’t sure how to install to Chrome, but tried clicking the fishy. I entered my username and password and was told my action requires “elevation” (my lap is a work machine). So I will have to get IT on board with it in order for me to even try it.

So far Timimi is still working, and I also use TiddlyStow for some files. So I am going to hold off until we get settled in in the States.

That’s odd. Nothing should have asked for name/password. Maybe that’s what happens with corporate-level security.

Thank you for the feedback. Although this patch shouldn’t make any difference with Firefox, it’s good to know it didn’t break it either.