Using talk.tiddlywiki quotes elsewhere especially in TiddlyWiki?

[TW_Tones]

Can you assist addressing this Idea I raised in meta?

Here

@TW_Tones

Proposal

We look at providing a small plugin that allows use to take a talk.tiddlywiki quote and paste it into a regular tiddler, generate a link from the quote “header” display the user you are quoting, format the text in markdown (if installed else text) and make it look like a quote.

• To keep it simple we could just detect a line starting and ending [quote= ] or [/quote] or just [ ] and it should not clash with other markup of filters/functions.

[pmario]

I wanted to add this functionality, but there have been some severe problems with the whole TW drag and drop functions with v5.3.0

Eg:

1. Issues with dnd tiddlers between different browsers. Eg: Chrome <-> FireFox
2. dnd with chrome android and so on.

Those problems should be fixed with v5.3.1 – So we could have a closer look at this functions again.

3. There are still some problems that we introduced somewhere around 5.1.23 with the browser bookmarks. But for that one we do have a workaround. See: fix drag and drop from chrome-like browsers to FireFox by pmario · Pull Request #7622 · Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 · GitHub which contains the fixes 1) and 2) but 3) still needs some investigation.

With the native drag & drop API we have to deal with some really “nasty” browser quirks. Especially since we also should care about TW backwards compatibility.

[pmario]

@TW_Tones

• To keep it simple we could just detect a line starting and ending [quote= ] or [/quote] or just [ ] and it should not clash with other markup of filters/functions.

This quote “thing” is discourse specific with their own javascript.

The native dataTransfer object of the browser does not contain this info. It only contains an HTML-snippet and a plain/text snippet if copied over to TW.

Copy / pasting the quoted text above will create this $:/Import tiddler. ATM there is no way to detect, if the pasted info came from discourse or any other site.

It should be possible to analyse code snippets of a text/plain format that have a TW header that starts with a title-field. If we detect text/plain only and the first line contains title: xxx we would be able to add a second import option as a tiddler.

I think that’s the best we could do, with the info available in the dataTransfer object.

title: test tiddler
my-field: a b c 

some text

[TW_Tones]

@pmario thanks for your considered replies, it is also interesting how you look at it a somewhat different way. Dealing with these difference would make a stronger solution.

• On my part I thought about writing a tiddler lets say on “using functions”, then I find some content I like and want to include in my tiddler. I select it on talk.tiddlywiki and select quote, it opens a new reply, I can optionally type a personal note then copy the lot. Jump over to my tiddler and paste. Typically, I would discard the temporary reply.
• I may add more content of save. But the point is the quote is now inside my tiddler, and I want it to be parsed and represented, making use of the information available, such as a link to there the content I quoted comes from.
• Already if a quote included code tiddlywiki handles the back ticks.

[pmario]

@TW_Tones

I may add more content of save. But the point is the quote is now inside my tiddler, and I want it to be parsed and represented, making use of the information available, such as a link to there the content I quoted comes from.

I see. That’s a request to create a custom parser rule, that knows how to deal with discourse specific quote markup [quote="TW_Tones, post:4, topic:7734"]. So rendered with TW it should create a link back to the talk-URL.

[TW_Tones]

Yes, and ideally honor the markdown that may exist inside the Quote.

• Perhaps it could be treated like @Mohammad’s section editor, or we could provide support to excise it to a markdown tiddler.