TW Paths & The Browser Fallback Download Saver. Problem

[TiddlyTitch]

I’m posting this here as I have no idea where else I could … ??

Background … I, for most TW, do manual saving. I have two manual savers:
 
(1) same as the usual default;
 
(2) a custom saver button purely for safety backups—that only appears once a session; on startup.

Arising Problem … I seem to be falling between a rock and a hard place on doing my best in TW—but still failing some Browser hurdle… ??
 
… I do this …
 
(i) set a Standard Browser to Download at …

 
(ii) set my Normal Saver to save to filename…

 
… okay so far …
 
(iii) set my Backup Saver to …

So, to — The Issue …

Why, when I try save to the Backup Saver relative PATH ./ark/ the in-TW browser pathing Is neutered by the Browser to _ark_ on save?

That ruins my orderly Backup efforts.

Any comments most welcome.
TT

[TW_Tones]

I think it’s a type of sanitation to stop saving to arbitrary locations. although we expect we could save to folders below. have you tried removing the ./ so arc/ ?

I believe @pmario’s backup solution saves to a subfolder of the downloads

[Mark_S]

I don’t think you can specify file paths. If you could, we could solve all our “save” problems. The slashes are sanitised because slashes can’t be part of a file name.

@TW_Tones

I believe @pmario’s backup solution saves to a subfolder of the downloads

Yes, but he uses a web extension to do that. The weakness with that approach is that you have to save below the downloads directory. Possibly these days you could use a juncture to link some other location to that location. Might be worth trying.

[TiddlyTitch]

@Mark_S

I don’t think you can specify file paths. If you could, we could solve all our “save” problems.

A vero.

It is a PITA. Why restrict sub-dirs of “Downloads”. Makes no sense.

[TiddlyTitch]

@TW_Tones

I believe @pmario’s backup solution saves to a subfolder of the downloads

I could do with a Downloads Sub-Directory Save-To Corrective.

But, why on earth do I have to submit to the Double Indignity of Bowing to Downloads THEN to all her/his sub-dirs too?

It is errant madness.

TT

[Mark_S]

The browser makers are worried that you will visit a web-site which will then download an executable (“My Gosh Darn Awful Virus.exe”) into your systems directory, over-writing existing system files. When those files get run, as part of the OS normal process, your machine is infected.

[TiddlyTitch]

@Mark_S

The browser makers are worried that you will visit a web-site which will then download an executable (“My Gosh Darn Awful Virus.exe”)

The way this is going I might instruct POLLY to Resuscitate Download Saving by replacing “_” with “/”.

It is unfortunate One has to think such thoughts. And add coded cruft.

What happened to Browsers, et al?

TT

[TiddlyTitch]

@Mark_S

The browser makers are worried that you will visit a web-site which will then download an executable

Sure. AND keeping a captive audience.

Whilst, in past, browser regularization was needed, now it is a moot point whether it is become a kneeing or a halcyon.

Since, in TW, we are beholden to The Browser. I do worry our Inputs & Outputs may be over-regulated.

TT with speculation …

[Mark_S]

@TiddlyTitch

The way this is going I might instruct POLLY to Resuscitate Download Saving by replacing “_” with “/”.

Just watch for other characters that are also converted to “_” . i.e. – Don’t be too creative with naming.

[TiddlyTitch]

@TW_Tones

to stop saving to arbitrary locations.

Right. BUT it was under the “download” folder already.

Are you commenting “they” restrict that?
Or also wondering why?

Just a query, TT

[TW_Tones]

I simply made a suggestion to try foldername without starting with ./

@Mark_S

Yes, but he uses a web extension to do that.

I don’t think so

but I can’t live with only the downloads folder either

I am currently using fire fox and Timimi, tiddlywiki-app and tiddlyhost with little else.

but for special cases I copy the full path and filename into the clipboard using an action, then ctrl-v it in to the save dialogue.

All I ever want to be is arbitrary:

[TiddlyTitch]

@TW_Tones

All I ever want to be is arbitrary:

Right. And rightly so.

Given the limits already in Standard Browsers it is awful that sub-download-folder addressing should be so nullified.

Somewhere in the history of this “we” (users) got sidelined?

TT

[TW_Tones]

@TiddlyTitch

Somewhere in the history of this “we” (users) got sidelined?

I feel this too, but I blame the scammers for forcing defensive postures on us all. I hear of $100s of millions in scams almost daily. Via the “risky business” podcast.

once again these issues continue to support the value of Timimi and arguably developing it further, but we need more people skilled in browser add ons, in the community.

[pmario]

@Mark_S

@TW_Tones

I believe @pmario’s backup solution saves to a subfolder of the downloads

Yes, but he uses a web extension to do that. The weakness with that approach is that you have to save below the downloads directory.

The file-backups extension is a FireFox web-extension.

It only can save to the configured browser downloads folder and its subdirectories.

@Mark_S

Possibly these days you could use a juncture to link some other location to that location. Might be worth trying.

• I did use Windows Junctions to redirect file saving from the downloads dir to other directories and backup them from there
• I also use a drive X:\ root directory as my downloads directory. So I can use any subdirectory as a target directory. That’s one of the weaknesses of that browser “subdirectory only” restriction.
• My main wiki runs as a single file wiki on Windows. I use a Webdav server that’s started in the background and also creates backups.