Tiddlywiki.com and TiddlyTools.com not loading

#1

Hi All

This post is not about TW as such, but about problems I am having accessing some TW-related web sites.
In particular, on my Linux Mint machine, I am unable to load https://tiddlywiki.com/ or https://tiddlytools.com. Using either Firefox or Chromium, I get a message that the connection has timed out when trying to load either of these sites. On the same machine, if I dual boot into Windows 10 and use Chrome, the sites load perfectly. If I use another Windows 11 machine connected to the same router, that also works perfectly. This would seem to indicate that it is a software or configuration issue with my Linux Mint setup.
I am very puzzled by this as I have accessed these sites previously (and saved them as bookmarks) yet now they do not load. Also, yesterday I was unable to load https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/ but today it is loading normally! :confused:

I have rebooted my router but this made no difference. I have tried two different browsers (Firefox and Chromium, plus Firefox in Troubleshooting Mode so that no extensions are used) but the results are the same in each case.
Does anyone have any suggestions for things I might try or pointers to information on diagnosing this kind of issue? It only seems to affect these TW-related sites. All other web sites I have visited seem to load without any problems. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew Mc

#2

I dont use linix but say something similar occuring in the past against tiddlyhost. Using the browser tools it was possible to see where an unusably slow load was causing a problem, then triggering a timeout.

  • Consider
  • safe mode
  • Link to a specific tiddler

I will return if I think of any other diagnostic methods.

#3

Both sites are loading fine for me. If you say that other sites load fine, the first thing to check is if domain names resolve properly. Does this work?

$ ping tiddlywiki.com
#4

Thanks, vuk. I tried pinging both tiddlywiki.com and tiddlytools.com, and I am relieved to see that it worked for both sites.

--- tiddlywiki.com ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 20 received, 0% packet loss, time 19027ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 43.263/46.368/53.700/2.593 ms

--- tiddlytools.com ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 20 received, 0% packet loss, time 19027ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 43.626/46.594/53.722/2.102 ms

Cheers,
Andrew Mc

#5

Try using something like

$ wget https://tiddlywiki.com

next.

If you get a 200 OK HTTP code, you’ve narrowed it down further to a web browser issue. And as a free bonus, you now have an local copy of tiddlywiki.com that you can browse offline.

#6

Thanks again, vuk. The wget worked with a 200 OK response.
So, now I guess that need to figure out why both Firefox and Chromium browsers are having trouble with these particular sites.

#7

There seems to be something strange.
On my Win11 machine the average time is about 9ms not 43ms

On my machine I do get more info, where the response comes from: Simiar to

64 bytes from cdn-185-199-xxx-yyy.github.com (185.199.xxx.yyy): icmp_seq=29 ttl=57 time=10.0 ms

The command traceroute tiddlywiki.com will show you the trace to the involved servers. With an IP lookup you can get more details.

You can use the IP address in the brackets to see where it comes from. Search for an “IP lookup” site. They will tell you the details.

#8

Hi pmario

I am in New Zealand, so I expect that the distance to the server might be greater for me than for you. I got a similar ping time of about 45 ms using Windows 10 as I did using Linux.

Cheers
Andrew Mc