TiddlyDeskop 0.0.18 broke down

on Mac Mini M1.

  • Could not be closed, could not be quit.
  • Closed down compyter with hard switch-off

Downloaded tiddlydesktop-macapplesilicon-v0.0.20.zip

  • It unpacked itself
  • Dragged to applications
  • App no working, cause file damaged

Am at loss, relie heavily on TiddlyDeskTop,
Anybody any ideas?
I just simple user, no codemaker.
Please? Many thanks in advance.

BTW, @Jermolene not on X.com anymore?

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I use TiddlyDesktop on a couple Apple Silicon Macs and I’ve had to remain on version 0.0.18. I don’t remember what problem I had with 0.0.20 but there was something that prevented me from upgrading.

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I don’t know mac, but I’m pretty sure TidGi-Desktop can run on mac. it might be worth looking into if you are using folder wikis.

I see, I can understand very well. Was expecting like this.
Still I have to be there, because existing friends and professional contacts
Have several accounts; so can avoid serious unpleasantness.
Many thanks for explanation!!

Great that you say this as I think made stupid mistake in here posted info. It was version 0.0.18 that broke! Then I downloaded 0.0.20 and thĂĄt one was reported damaged. Have changed title of post to reflect this!
I will try 0.0.18 again.

After download the logo was already showing that sign that something was not OK.
So version 0.0.18 is also reported damaged.
This is harmful as I have many specialized wikis for my work.
Am at loss now. 8-((

Update
Must mention that I use Sequoia 15.3.3 (24D70) on my Mac Mini M1, Is that any help?

Sorry, to difficult for me I think to make that change now.

Found on GitHub discussions about issue.
Not looking good, over my poor old head
Mac Apple Silicon install file corrupted 312
Mac Apple Silicon install file corrupted ¡ Issue #312 ¡ TiddlyWiki/TiddlyDesktop ¡ GitHub.

At the end 312 is referring to 294
TiddlyDesktop app is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the trash. 294

Not looking good. Really seem need alternative as teaching aid.

Sorry that you are having such trouble. I’m running TiddlyDesktop 0.0.20 (18) on Sequoia 15.3.1 on a Mac Mini M1 successfully. I had seen previously the damaged report that you are seeing; but now installation works for me.

The only problem I have with it is using Drag n Drop which makes it quit. My workaround is to open the same TW html file in a chromium browser to drag n drop plugins (or transfer tiddlers from my main wiki which runs on a public facing node.js installation).

TiddlyDesktop is the only way I can use TW as a file manager and it excels at that.

Hi there.

Sorry you are having difficulty with unsigned macOS apps.

As far as I understand it, the “App is damaged” message is designed to protect macOS users from installing malicious software from outside the App Store. However, as long as you trust an app (and you can trust TiddlyDesktop), here are the steps I take to fix this issue (which as far as I know is a misleading notification from Apple):

  1. Find trusted app in Finder.
  2. Open the Terminal app.
  3. Type: xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /path/to/app.app (replacing /path/to/app.app with app path – or dragging and dropping the app - e.g. TiddlyDesktop - from Finder to the Terminal app)
  4. Press enter on your keyboard.

The app should now work.

For more details, see https://www.howtogeek.com/803598/app-is-damaged-and-cant-be-opened/, or wolf2351’s comment on this Apple Support thread: "XYZ Is Damaged and Can’t Be Opened. You … - Apple Community

Hi Gb7b5,

Many thanks for comment trying to help out. Always appreciated. Is encouraging that you run TiddlyDesktop on Sequois 15.3.1, getting closer to my Mac Mini Installtion.

“using Drag n Drop which makes it quit” You mean for example also when dragging a picture into the wiki will make it quit? For some short demowikis I do that.

Sorry for stupid question. Just very average user. You use 0.0.20 (18) ← What does that (18) stand for?

Anyway. I keep plodding along. Had to solve first being super user. When figuring out solution at GitHub # 294. I am Admin and Terminal said no superuser. But seems fixed now.

Re: “What does (18) stand for ?” I’m not qualified to answer. I just copied down what is displayed when I click the “About TiddlyDesktop” menu item.

As for dragging in jpeg or png files, that works although I never do that personally.

When I have a break from work I will try and install the TiddlyDesktop app on a different M1 computer to see if I also hit a snag.

Got my other M1 mini back from the theater and found that TiddlyDesktop was already installed there so I erased it along with all related files so that I could start the installation from scratch.

Installing “tiddlydesktop-macapplesilicon-v0.0.20.zip” was also impossible for me. Usually problems with the signing of apps not corresponding to some code in the app itself let one open the app anyway by going to Security in Settings; but in this case, the only choice is to bin the app, which I did.

Next I tried with “https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyDesktop/releases/download/v0.0.20/tiddlydesktop-mac64-v0.0.20.zip”. After unzipping and putting the app into the Applications folder, I tried opening it and this time I could go to Security in Settings and click on Open Anyway. There’s a second popup window where I could again click on Open Anyway. And voilà. The app opens and is ready for business. Although not specifcally for apple silicon, the app works flawlessly.

This code in a tiddler displays the contents of whichever folder on whichever attached volume/hard disk you indicate in src=“whatever folder”. In my example I’ve specified the root directory:

<iframe width="100%" height="800px" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen src="/"></iframe>

You can navigate to nested folders just like with the Finder. On the top of the iframe display there’s the path for the enclosing folder which you can highlight and copy into the ext syntax, then you can highlight and copy the file name itself, adding it to the path. Using the [ext[some short name of your own choosing|full-path-of-file]] syntax, the file will open in whichever local app you have specified in the file’s info panel.

Of course the macos Finder or the Terminal app can do a similar job, but TiddlyDesktop lets you do all its magic: adding info on files or journals on work you’re doing with them, linking, listing, todos, all the great stuff.
Hope you have success in installing it now.