State Of The Map

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State Of The Map |Manila 2025 (October 3, 4, 5) State of the Map 2025 – Manila

I will be there. TiddlyWiki Geospatial Plugin will be presented and represented by me unless you object.

Please contact me with your views, concerns, everything.

AlfieA

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Awesome. Hope it goes well!

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#3

Hi @AlfieA thank you for spreading the word about TiddlyWiki and the Geospatial Plugin.

I hope the talk is a great success, and I’m sure I speak for others in the community in saying I’d be happy to help preparations if that’s useful.

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Thank you, Jeremy. Your words mean a lot!
There is some space for submitting a presentation. I am working on that. I would like to ask the TW community for some guidance and talking points.
AlfieA

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Let us know how this goes Alfie.

There would be value in starting a conversation on this. I am personaly a fan of what3words (w3w) whoes API’s can be used with GPS addresses, as what three words provides a three word name for every 3m x 3m square on earth it would be nice to map these to a tiddler name in which we can store information for that place.

  • The thing is this is a form quanta of space, in someways lacking with standard GPS co-ordinates
  • Users can build there own or shared POI Points of interest, made unique by w3w named tiddlers and shared as tiddlers.
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I have been in touch with the organizers and it looks like I may have an opportunity to deliver a short talk in which I would be briefing everyone on TiddlyWiki, its merits as a mapping database and the Geospatial Plugin.

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As per your suggestion TW_Tones, I had a look at What3Words. The idea’s very appealing to me.

Now… My computer’s in Japanese and the “three words” in the address bar are in Japanese:

とうてい。しまめぐり。こなぐすり

Translated: Possibly. Island Tour. This kind of medicine.

Location: Freeport (Bahamas) International Bazaar (a really happenin’ place when I was a kid and definitely NOT SO now).

This brings up some very interesting questions.

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W3W is an appealingly simple solution to a complex problem, but it’s worth noting that it is an entirely commercial service and is only free to use in limited circumstances - see How does what3words make money? for details. There have also been persistent criticisms of some of their claims about the technology. I recommend this article for background.

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:thinking: I think こなぐすり would be powdered medicine (粉薬), not “this kind of medicine” (which would be こんなくすり)

#10

@Springer, Yes. Thank you.

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I think this came up before, and I will say as I did before that we must be aware of a private companies limited openness and always be sceptical but I need to point out some of these critics arguments also deserve a high degree of scepticism as well.

  • without putting up a blow by blow response to these criticisms many are wholly or partially incorrect and do not take into account the nature of the problem and solution.
  • none of the issues raised will nessasarly impede the use of w3w along side and within tiddlywiki

I do get the feeling that these criticisms, although they may have some basis fact, do suggest a bias of sorts from the authors. Had such criticisms being less biased they would not poison the idea and relative value of w3w as much.

I have investigated w3w to a substantial degree in the past and even interacted with them in relation to the third dimension of height. I have also considered how such a solution works and feel they have made reasonable assumptions and rules. I doubt they are perfect but know they are not as imperfect as the critics suggest.

  • for example if an earthquake moves my house I need to update its location just as I would if I move home or my house.
  • by its nature you can’t use a language translator to convert one w3w address to another you must resort to a database lookup because there is no firm direct or deterministic relationship between all languages and sets of 3 words

yours sincerely
tones