Query: Does https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ have a section for Plugin Libraries?

#6

Hello Mark_S,

There are indeed several Plugin Libraries.
Here are the one I have referenced in my TiddlyWiki.

BR

Eskha

Relink Library

https://flibbles.github.io/tw5-relink/library/index.html

The Relink library contains Relink as well as its supplemental plugins. It is maintained by Flibbles. See the github page for more information.

Official TiddlyWiki Plugin Library

https://tiddlywiki.com/library/v5.2.0/index.html

The official TiddlyWiki plugin library at tiddlywiki.com. Plugins, themes and language packs are maintained by the core team.

Chinese Plugin Library on GitHub

https://tiddly-gittly.github.io/TiddlyWiki-CPL/library/index.html

TiddlyWiki Chinese Community Plugin Source This plugin source is maintained by the TiddlyWiki Chinese Community and is dedicated to collecting all TiddlyWiki5 related plugins on the web, hoping to provide a one-click installation and update plugin experience for TiddlyWiki users in China and around the world.

Inmysocks - Testing Library

http://ooktech.com/jed/pluginlibrary/testing/index.html

The plugin library for the plugins made by inmysocks. This library contains all of my plugins, even the ones that are not ready for general use, so be very careful importing them. That and the plugin library idea is new so be doubly careful, both the library idea and my plugins are being tested. For more information about the plugins see Wiki Reference Wiki — a wiki containing examples of how to make the wiki do stuff. wiki wiki wiki. I like saying wiki. wiki..

Kookma Plugin Library

https://kookma.github.io/TW-PluginLibrary/library/index.html

Kookma plugin library is a set of plugins developed by Mohammad. A good recommendation is to backup your data before installing any plugins. These plugins distributed under MIT license. To use in other wikis, drag and drop this link to those wikis: Kookma Plugin Library

SQ Plugin Library

https://saqimtiaz.github.io/SQPL/library/index.html

Saq’s Plugin library (Streams, File upload, …)

Official Plugin Library by Tobias Beer

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/library/index.html

The plugin library for the latest and greatest plugins from tobibeer/plugins; officially released versions of plugins by tobibeer. Warning: this library is no longer updated.

Wikilabs Library (latest)

https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/pluginlibraryWL/library/latest/index.html

WikiLabs plugin library latest version!

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#7

Thanks @Eskha & @arunnbabu81 for your info, @Eskha particularly as you give the links too.

IMO having a “Plugin-Library” tag on https://links.tiddlywiki.com with all those under it would help a lot of end-users.

Best, TT

#8

Ciao @saqimtiaz, thankyou for your patient thought!

TBH, I kinda understood the submission logic, though I never myself did it. I’m always reluctant speaking for someone else. What I mean is, “how do I know they want to be listed if they have not listed themself?” Also I had no idea where they were!

Part of my thinking was that the tags on https://links.tiddlywiki.com, precisely because they are a melange of folksonomies, makes navigating it a bit complex.

In the specific use-case I just thought that a clear tag “Plugin-Library”, with the known items under it, might well help end-users a lot?

Just comments
TT

#9

The concept behind Links however is that it should not be the developers or creators of solutions that are listing them, rather that the community is bookmarking what they find useful or interesting. Sadly there is hardly anyone actually using it in this manner, only @Ste_W comes to mind! As such there is also currently no mechanism to add a tag to Links outside of bookmarking something with that tag.

Yes they are indeed a bit of a mess and it would be worth a separate discussion on how to standardize the tags derived from the user generated content.

Overall I think your concerns would be better addressed by a wider discussion around how Links works and how it can be improved. I suspect there also isn’t much momentum towards improving Links due to the lack of uptake from the community, though that may well be a chicken and egg scenario.

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#10

Thanks Eskha! I’ve submitted these with tag “PluginLibrary”. Maybe it should have been “Plugin-Library”. Oh well.

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#12

Thank you Mark_S for submiting.

Regarding the name of the tag, I would propose “Plugin Library” to follow the Tiddler Title Policy of tiddlywiki.com:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Tiddler%20Title%20Policy

You can especially note

In the past, many tiddlers had CamelCase titles. This is gradually being phased out of the documentation to improve readability. CamelCase titles should no longer be used, even for tags, except in cases like JavaScript where that is the standard spelling.

And the hyphen seems to be rarely used on tiddlywiki.com.

#13

Well, I feel that is a very early document that has been honored in the omission almost as much as the commission. Typing a title list of items with brackets is harder, and the outcome is uglier, than without the brackets. There’s also likely to be apps that break when using tags with spaces.

But for the moment I’ve converted mine to “Plugin Library” .

Now on to the next question – Singular or Plural? Depends whether you’re thinking of labeling each item as being in a [[Plugin Library]], or if you think of it as being a member of [[Plugin Libraries]] .

#14

If it was me, I prefer always singular!

#15

Small comment. Since the label applies to A library at a time it is likely best as singular?

TT

#16

We have topic pages that list all the links under a particular topic, which might arguably read better if the topic were singular:

https://links.tiddlywiki.com/topics/colorpalettes/

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#17

It really depends what question you’re asking yourself (Is it member of ‘Plugin Libraries’, or IS it a Plugin Library). But that’s the low hanging fruit.

What if the label is about something that is typically plural, like Aliases, Bullets, Breadcrumbs ? The tiddler itself is not an Alias, Bullet, or Breadcrumb , so ??

Edit: See tag OfficialPlugins in TiddlyWiki.com which is both pluralised and camelcase.

#18

Ciao @Mark_S. I had to stop for a while and reflect on your excellent comment.

I have no solution. Only a comment, coming from teaching English to non-native speakers. They have great problems with word “classes” where something is subsumed in such a way it is both, apparently, singular and plural.

To give a simple example …

Case 1: We have the Mark-S-Palette. It is a palette.

Case 2: We have the Mark-S-Palette-Maker. Well, it is not one palette, it is a maker of many palettes.

That said, in practice, IF I’m looking for TW palette control, wouldn’t it be best if case-2 were tagged just like case-1?

Just a thought
TT

#19

IMO it doesn’t matter. … If I search for “plugins” at: https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ I typically only need to
type “plug” and do get a list of 5 elements.

It finds “plugin”, “plugins” and some other plugin-related topic … I will CTRL-click all of them to open new tabs in my browser. … For me it doesn’t matter, who the topics are tagged.

What does matter, is that 2 of the links are broken. (Those with the spaces) … I think this would be a topic that should be discussed how it can be fixed.

grafik

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#20

I just wanted to add a linguistic thought.

Alias/Aliases: In English we can of course use the “gerund / present participle” … Aliasing … that is non-connected to singular/plural status, but rather more orientated to the objective.

Just a comment
TT

#21

Right!

The one thing here though is you are a TW aficionado who knows in their bones what to type! :slight_smile:

But I think the issue here is also about naive beginners browsing the tags? How would they know before seeing them what to type for optimal recall?

It is a very interesting thread that is illustrative, IMO, of common issues that arise where “folksonomies” (perfect individually) hit a collective situation.

Just a comment
TT

#22

IMO it also doesn’t matter in a context I don’t know. Even if I search something in any global or site related search-engine, in English I always use “singular” since I don’t know how the search algorithm works.

eg: The author of a site used “plugin” and the search algorithm is a simple regexp match.

If I type: “plugin” it will find “plugin”, “plugins”, “plugin-x” … and so on. If I search for “plugins” it won’t find anything, because the algorithm doesn’t know it.

So it doesn’t matter how the author writes it. It only matters what the algorithm can handle.

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#23

Well, it’s better if people can be channeled towards whatever they actually want.

That’s a good idea!

Yes. Also, it presents the results as lower case. That may also be why it’s not finding the page.

Also, if in the topic list you go to “Plugin (53)” and click you arrive at “plugin (25)”. So there appears to be 2 or 3 actual bugs going on.

#24

Right!

But you still thinking a beginner will use search. That cannot be assumed. The scenario I was thinking more common will be a newbie coming to look at Topics. There they see, “plugin” related …

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I think that is uber-confusing! Just saying.

Best wishes caro,
TT

#25

Right. Part of the issue, I think, is how to be “smart” on the final taggery so it matches a browsing person’s focus appropriately. IMO it is a more difficult issue than it may first look. Part of the issue, well a big part of it, is that TW ramifies in multiple directions so it is a bit of a nightmare deriving any overview nomenclature. FWIW I think you, @Mark_S, have done brilliantly whilst still aware the submissions have created some redundancy,

Just a comment, TT