Plugin Idea: Tix – New Tiddler Layout (for TW >= 5.2.1)

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Have been using Tix quite a bit recently. As an author creating and organizing story lines and from the end-user reader perspective of my audience. Has been working great.

As expected, composing on wide-screen vs tablet is totally different. Granted that probably most people will not be authoring using a tablet - but I do. Got a keyboard, mouse, and kitchen sink connected to mine. Living in IoT heaven (or hell).

Was going to propose removing the ‘Sidebar’ tab from the standard Tix layout. Is so easy to remove the ‘$:/tags/Lox/cfx’ tag from ‘$:/themes/telmiger/Lox/cfx/sidebar’. Would say it doesn’t really matter if stays or not.

One element missing in ‘Page’ tab is to change the theme. I have tried different themes running Tix v0.9 with pretty good results. Or is Tix itself going/should be a theme?

Can only have one theme active at a time as far as I know.

Tix on a tablet. When scrolling up/down the river on a tablet I always shoot past the previous/next tiddler - then get all lost in the river, don’t know where I’m at, then forget what I was scrolling for to begin with :(.

A super handy feature when using a tablet - along with the ‘Top of Story’ floater button, would be to have ‘Previous in Story’ and ‘Next in Story’. That would bring you to the top of those tiddlers - without scrolling. Allowing to walk (swim) up/down the river tiddler by tiddler.

Probably only that useful on a tablet - so could use @media or element width to determine if should be displayed?

Ideas or other methods to ‘swim’ the river tiddler by tiddler?

Thanks for reporting your findings! And yes, I do have an idea I will include in the next release. :slight_smile:

Cheers, Thomas

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If there are people out there switching themes often, I would be willing to add this. (I do not, so I left it in the control panel.)

Tix is a new kind of tiddler, it should work with existing themes. I am using it with vanilla.

The new demo has the buttons suggested by @poc2go, you can jump to the next and the previous tiddler in the story. They also move the focus for people navigating via keyboard (tab and enter). I like them! :smiley:

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Hi all,
You might find this interesting. I ran a slightly modified Tix v0.9 through my Tiddilywiki file analysis program. See the results at Tix v0.9 with notebook.

Ciao caro @telmiger

I been using v0.10 of Tix some hours. It is really good!

It is a shame you not getting feedback from a few more people. Tix is a very good approach to TW design and now, with it maturing, is a good time to make comments I think! Fingers crossed!

I will comment next on some specific issues.

Best, TT

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Caro @telmiger

That just illustrates how trying to integrate things really works out well!

Now, just a comment on the scope of what I’m likely to do, FYI …

  1. Have a “Design Wiki” purely to develop new designs … That would include all the plugins listed above.
  2. I’d likely add (not that you need to do it!) tools (like yours) for working with SVG
  3. Add, if I can figure out how to do it, a Button Maker to simplify the process of making operational buttons for the UI.
  4. Have an export mechanism that saves; (A) all needed setting Tiddlers, and (B) all tiddlers of the plugins needed (but no more than essential for use in another wiki).

Hope this is clear. I will comment more on my point (4) separately.

Best, TT

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Caro,

These are just thoughts …

One issue that came up for me was “how far do you go with this approach” for settings. There are a lot of possible standard TW settings relevant to design. My thought was that in a “Design Wiki” why not expose them all in one approach? (Rather than having to separately find them).

Looking Tix v0.10 I can see a few layout issues I’d be interested if you want to look into …

  1. Option to Centralise the Story River
  2. Option to activate the SideBar as an Overlay
  3. Option to move Sidebar to Left

NOT sure how difficult this would be …

  1. Option for Columnised or Flexigrid layout?

TT

Caro,

I’d like to try convey a practical issue I have and then ask a question …

I keep a clear distinction between Authoring Mode and Online User Mode. Why? When I’m authoring (offline) I like all the functionality of TW available. But once put out to users (online) normally I remove much of the interface, saving & so on, since they are users of a site, not users of TW.

Recently I started to use StartupActions to automate that process so on startup from web the layout changes to “read-only, simple interface”. Otherwise it is very laborious changing a wiki to “read-only” every time you make a small change before uploading.

My point regarding your plugin was whether there might ever be a “Design Saver / Loader”? :slight_smile: . If there were you could …

  1. Develop & test multiple designs in one Design Wiki without having to manually change everything.
  2. For my case above … add two designs to a target wiki, one for offline normal use, and one for loading online that via StartupActions could run a Design Loader macro.

You get the idea? :slight_smile:
Just some thought, TT

Caro @telmiger, I commented in a previous post …

I wanted to explain a bit more what I meant. The way I intend to use Tix etc is to develop designs in a Design Wiki then export that design to a target wiki. If I ever changed the design for the target wiki I’d most likely do it in the Design Wiki, not the target.

Q: My question is … once you have a design what components do you need to transfer to a target wiki? Do you need all of the plugins in the target wiki too? Or could it work with a minimal set of plugin parts? I’m simply unclear about this.

Just a query
Best wishes
TT

Caro TT,

I have planned to look into these when stepping up from tiddler level (Tix) to page layout level (Lox). At the moment, my focus is on the content of the story river.

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My first approach would be to define the reader view once and keep an empty edition of it. Or export a fresh one when needed. @Mohammad 's Gatha should make that easy.

In your authoring studio you should export or bundle your content, import into the reader edition and publish. I will try to figure out how my theme could support that. Easy filtering of settings/config tiddlers for example? A Lox settings plugin could perhaps be predefined in my development edition for devs and advanced users.

If you want two designs in one wiki, why not have two themes, Lox User and Lox author? Is your startup process able to switch themes?

Yes, I think so. Thanks for this and the other tips!

Best, TT

Thanks for giving this consideration!

TT

Been using Tix 0.10 Beta for a few weeks now from an author/reader point of view. When authoring I tend to switch to the vanilla theme - using the normal TW5 sidebar. Have to go in and put the ‘standard’ sidebar tabs back into the sidebar when authoring. But guess that is a personal preference.

I am still using the ‘notebook’ theme when publishing with a couple of plugins with @telmiger DetailWidget - which searching for, is not all that SEO friendly as is hard to find. Not sure how to solve that :frowning: Main reason for ‘notebook’ is my readers over the years are used it. But a face-lift would be awesome.

Thought would let you know - I build content in my fav text editor - then cut/paste into TW tiddlers. When wiki opened - hard set the core tiddlers in the story river via the ControlPanel -> info -> basics -> Default tiddlers option. Those tiddlers reference the various story line/branches in the publication.

Not saying to address now, but very interested in the TW-epub discussions that are floating around this discourse. Seems to be a topic of interest to many. Just something to keep in mind to possibly dovetail Tix into the production of those authoring epub publications?

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That’s unrelated, but when I search for “TiddlyWiki Details Widget” on Google then the Google forum where I presented it gets rank 1 and my tid.li plugins page on position 9 is still on the first page.

When googling for “telmiger detail widget” my plugins page ranks at the top.

How do you search, when you get not so friendly results? Please send a PM so we can focus on Tix here.