Request 1:
We should learn from other note taking tools. Above image is the user interface of logseq what we can learn from it and what feature you see missing in Tiddlywiki to add it?
Request 2
The above image is generated using https://excalidraw.com/ are there volunteers to create one for Tiddlywiki and share here so others can contribute and customize it for Tiddlywiki tutorials?
Instead of excalidraw, I suggest that we use penpot or figma, itās easier to make modifications with these tools 
https://penpot.app/ - open source, free
https://www.figma.com - closed source, freemium (but better performances atm)
Iām currently working on a custom edition for tiddlywiki aimed at providing tools to help develop UI elements, when Iām done Iāll share it here, maybe that will help.
Other great inspiration for UI aimed for learning :
EDIT: I forgot to give feedback for the screenshot, my bad ! I like the graph view a lot, and two side panels could be better than one sidebar with a lot of tabs. Iād prefer to have a search bar at the top center instead of a tiny icon at the top left of the screen thoughā¦
Request 1 - agree that designing user interfaces is a skillset all on its own Mohammad. It is fascinating to see how good uiās reduce down and minimise for efficient interaction. We all use them every day but itās like another language trying to make one. Mobile in particular. Hereās an interesting link with some basic principles, if youāre interested. Iām sure there are many more around;
Gestalt design principles by Lorenzo
(Vectornator is a free svg app for ios - no affiliation, it is good though)
Request 2 - here is a proof of concept of something that I think might be useful for tutorials but Iām not so sure of its fundamentals. It is very primitive. Iāve tried to use it to explain itself in the Help tiddler. Tap the red buttons;
https://wattaged.github.io/popmap/
Primitive I know but maybe the concept has potential as a tool for explaining tw interfaces and plugins, amongst other things? Maybe the concept could be developed further by someone with ability so that we have an āin-houseā tool? What do you think?
Keep up the good work Mohammad!
Looking forward to try it! Thank you for all your efforts.
Nice tool! I cannot remember now, but someone else has created a wizard to explain UI elements in Tiddlywiki! If I find it I will share it here!
Thank you for all your useful thoughts.
Definitely scope for future tw developments, particularly on mobile. Interactive tutorials + gatha? Thanks for suggestions and links telumire. Penpot looks great.
Yes, we need to improve UI in TW for better User Xperience, and so TW looks more friendly to newcomers.
In my case, I like the centered themes, there are great centered theme but it is annoying for me when the storyriver shifts if you hide/show the sidebar. I tried create a theme but I saw that the problem (IMO) is in the layout. Then I started a new layout but it is WIP.
We can enum the pointo of UI, not features, that we like from other notetaking tools and we give the reason. The we can evaluate the most important issues in the UI.
I would be pickled tink (tickled pink) if you could find and share that!
I would ask if anyone goes ahead to build a wiki with new UI elements that they do so in a modular manner so they can be selectively added for example - provide a generic Left bar UI page element with tags to populate it, I could then reuse my focus tiddler/history list and place it in that.
Not only does it ensure reusable, customisable code it also promotes community contributions.
For example: I have solutions that use a second toolbar, page and tiddler indicators (Icons that display a state), search indicator (responds to search text) that I can divide into page elements and solutions that use such page elements.
@DesertDwarf
This is the tutorial maker in Tiddlywiki by @abesamma!
Download the demo.html and click start short tutorial demo
@Sttot Is making a Grid layout manager, I think it can achieve this layout.
We can learn from others. And also better use what we have already.
For instance the Free Dictionary does associative word maps ā¦ Here is one for ātiddlerā at https://www.freethesaurus.com/tiddler ā¦
Iām sure TiddlyMap could do that kind of presentation easily.
Maybe your OP is really an issue of specification and how to call for collaboration?
What I am trying to get at is that already we have skill to do these interfaces. It is more about how to assert an objective and bring it together??
Vague thoughts
TT
I thought about this.
TBH, over years I have seen implementations (TWs) by folk that are phenomenal.
I do not think we lack capacity to make most anything.
What I would say is that āmodularisationā is an issue. What I mean is there is currently NO meta-level way to relate easily actual coding folk done in buckets (= a lot of) already. That, maybe, makes harder what might otherwise be plug-n-play into laborious recreation of the wheel? Dunno. I, dunno.
Regarding your OP of ā¦
ā¦ that should be a doddle to TW-ise 
. But: How? Sustainably?
Just thoughts
TT
Yeah. Dispense with the story river and throw up a bunch of statically (CSS fixed) position divs. We know a song about that, donāt we TT 
Innovative Coding is likely always about The Road Ahead ā¦
Spooky. I used to work for Innovative Software (> Informix > Ascential > IBM).
