What is wrong with a global name being “RUSTON”?
TT
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Lest ye forget…
I love that! It honors Jeremy and it’s rather unique! Brilliant idea!
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Did you forget?
lovely idea, but I think Jeremy will worry, that other people would think, he wrote his name all over the creation.
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That’s a fair point, as far as the Jermolene aspect goes.
I do like the honoring of the creator with it being something relative to mr. Ruston though, but if that doesn’t work for others, I’d like to offer a few other ideas, and maybe we can hold a poll on each of the major platforms and compare the results, whether people want to stick with TW or call it something new?
Some I’d recommend to add would be:
- RustonWiki
- OceanWiki
- SilkWiki
- BioWiki
names in-place of tiddler:
- Rustles
- Jerms
- Cells(relative to BioWiki)
Some side-notes for consideration, wiki is of Hawaiian origin, meaning “quick” (or so Wikipedia tells me, so tiddlywiki is literally “small fish quick” which, i mean- yea that’s true ig.) and being that a tiddler is a small fish, we could consider an aquatic theme, since there are different areas of the ocean, and an ocean of knowledge is always desirable, and it is usually used on the internet, net of course invoking imagery of using a net to catch fish. There’s also the term “web” used for the internet, which gives the image of a spiders web, so maybe that could be incorporated?
Just spitball’ing, in case anything I bring up inspires someone else!
Personally, I enjoy TiddlyWiki for its name, and the origin and history of the name is interesting to me, as I often call my TW a “TiddlyKasten”, as a little side note.
Just my thoughts, hope this helps!
- JMH
Edit: question for the community / creator - why is the mascot a cat’s silhouette? unrelated sure, but if there was meaning behind that, that could also be incorporated?
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The one issue with that is, in UK, is that JERMOLENE is an homophone of the common cream GERMOLENE … 
Just saying, TT
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A good name for problem solvers then? No matter the spelling?
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Something that has always fascinated me: what causes projects, particularly big ones, to fail.
A thought I have had for a long time: if you have no way of measuring the cost of an activity, don’t do it.
So even before thinking of changing the name of something, it is a good idea to have a way to measure (account for) the costs.
The immediate cost of changing the name TiddlyWiki to something else: search results.
Do a search for “TiddlyWiki”.
As much as I like “Ruston”, do a search for it.
Do a search for other names.
And then, as much as some folk may dislike the name “TiddlyWiki”, you are going to get a bunch of folk who don’t like the alternative name.
I personally like “TW HyperLinked Solutions Platform”.
It is a long moniker, but it doesn’t matter. TW is the foundation for solutions, and people are looking for solutions to problems. The solutions that are built on TiddlyWiki, the names of those solutions are the ones that matter.
Take BASIC Anywhere Machine, aka “BAM!” (I just added the exclamation mark, which I might just make “official”). My pet project is extremely niche. It doesn’t look like TiddlyWiki unless you want it to. And the name says what it does (well, at least tries to).
“TiddlyWiki” or “TW Hyperlinked Solutions Platform” then only matters when a person wants to customize BASIC Anywhere Machine. A technical name for technical work is fine.
Something like “noosphere” or other, these ought to be names for TiddlyWiki use cases, a name that is about a very specific problem that is getting solved by TiddlyWiki.
Anyway, all of that blathering is mostly about: change the name, you immediately lose access to search results and history, and then have to change the names and url’s of so many things (plugins, related web sites, etc.)
And if it isn’t called TiddlyWiki anymore, then the word “tiddler” bites the biscuit. And I like the word “tiddler”.
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I share your sentiment with that.
I’m sure a familiar discussion was being held when they were thinking of a name for what we now call a “wiki”, and others wanting something else.
Change is good, but no need to fix what isn’t broken, in my opinion.
It’s unique, almost unconventional name is something with a history now, and history is always important.
Folks, like the title says, this is a brainstorming thread - otherwise healthy and lengthy discussion should be conducted elsewhere.
Spontaneity is the key!
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall.
Trying to sell “Wiki” is silly.
Instead, one sells features and functionality.
“You need a way for a bunch of people to collaborate on content for an HR website. Let me build that for you.”
There is no mention of “wiki”, although that is what I’m going to give you. But I will be calling it the “Collaborative HR content solution.”
Same for TiddlyWiki. It isn’t the solution for end users.
It is the tool to build the solution. I would NOT tell folk who need to track an inventory: “hey, you need Visual Studio .NET; or Eclipse; or OpenText Gupta Team Developer.” We who build the solutions don’t pitch the tools with which we build the solutions. We pitch the solutions.
Oh oh, I’m getting into paralysis by analysis …
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FWIW – For What Its Worth,
Google and Facebook changed their corporate logo and/or stock ticker.
So, i thought of TWKI as a “symbol” for TiddlyWiki. Heaven forfend we’d ever take our beloved to the publicly traded market. But this lead to my “discovery” of TWiki, as in twiki.org. What, if any common ancestors have TiddlyWiki and TWiki?
b.t.w, what ever name, if any, arises here, it should easily submit to fandom naming. e.g. i liked Pando, and would be pleased to be known as a pandonista!
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Might have been a good idea to hold an agile brainstorming event with a well-defined scope.
Whatever intents in an open forum, you’re gonna get what you’re gonna get.
Whatever the title of the thread says, it is tagged “Discussion” and “user growth”.
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!Did you have any other names you considered when you initially chose TiddlyWiki, mr. @jeremyruston? or possibly some you’ve heard in the past or considered at some point?
I’d love MetaWiki, but Facebook already claimed ownership for Meta…
Fred
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Yea, MetaWiki might be a bit rough to separate from FB, now.
What about HyperWiki? in the context of normal wiki software and hypertext, tiddlywiki sure does enough to be considered a peice of* hyper-wiki software
edit: grammer
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May I suggest “wikinception” ?
Fred
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Before i got involved in TiddlyWiki (March, 2005), I was active in the TWiki community.
As an interesting note for this discussion, Peter Thoeny (the creator of TWiki), in his bio (PeterThoeny < Main < TWiki), uses the phrase: “TWiki Enterprise Collaboration platform”, and the headline on the TWiki home page (https://twiki.org/) says: " TWiki - the Open Source Enterprise Wiki and Web Application Platform".
Thus, we see the use of elaboration of the name “TWiki”, perhaps as a way to mitigate the effects of a “silly-sounding name”.
I like alliteration… so I’ve described TiddlyWiki as:
“A Personal, Portable, Programmable Platform for Productivity”
-e
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There’s already a Rust programming language, so there may be confusion about the relationships involved.
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