Let's brainstorm a name for the next version of TiddlyWiki

#41

Hello everyone,

I have suggested the following name to Jeremy a while ago as in my opinion perfectly describes TW. I am curious what the community thinks about it.

Holon - meaning (simultaneously) whole and part. This word in itself is not specific to any field of study and yet it applies to all of them. Reality is built based on this system from the smalles units to the largest ones and so does TW. In TW’s ecosystem Tiddlers, nested/compund tiddlers at all levels, and in the end even the single TW-file itseld are all holons…

Cheers.

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#42

But it does love “recursive transclusion”

Perhaps not, a thread of silk is like a set of silk(s), tags and other things thread info together they are not elemental, a thread is a relationship between things. A thread is perhaps an idea, not an atom/tiddler.

We could however explore a Fabric theme, which is like the fabric of the universe

  • Fabric Quine
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#43

I’m in favor of something which is as simple as possible. As in if the word itself is obscure, then you fall into the same problem with TiddlyWiki is people will fixate on the meaning of tiddly or mycelium (which to me these sort of fungal connotations always remind me of doom/stoner/psychedelic music)

I propose, based on the previous discussions in the Google Group, something like TWX or TXWiki. The name need not be complicated

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#44

I liked holon connotations and naming. We have a wiki called Holonica and is a word play with the idea of holographic composition (part and whole at the same time) for wikis. The oldest version is working with Dokuwiki, but now that I have come back to TW I am building a TW powered version of Holonica. Something like holowiki could work but the holo.wiki domain is currently parked and in sale just for €19990 (you know, because “everybody” thinks with such prices that is closer to €19K that to €20K :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: ).

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#45

In favor of non-complicated names, I would add considerations about pronunciation beyond English. I think that TXWiki (te equis wiki, in Spanish) or TWX (te doble ve equis) are not well pronounced in Spanish and in general something with a lot of consonants together or only consonants becomes pretty strange in romance derived languages (maybe in contrast with Saxo-Germans derived).

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#46

I’ll throw in: Liiki – the List-based Wiki

It also means skin, which might be of some use for analogies?

#47

Probably five years ago too…

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#48

I offered this in 2020: Orangutan: Outstanding Ruston App eNabling Great User Tagging And Notetaking

#49

Really?

Is @jeremyruston hairy in Oxford?

Just asking for a friend
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#50

@TiddlyTweeter
Don’t judge by the looks!
Orangutans are strong, smart and resourceful. - And the name is for the app - created by Ruston.

Let me add that many beginners finding learning Tiddlywiki rather hairy.

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#51

I guess a collection of tiddlers would be a shoal, which is a bit heavy perhaps. In Scandinavian languages, it’s stim (pron. as “steam”), in Italian/Spanish it’s banco (?), waawa in Maori. The Finnish word lauma feels nice in the mouth, but refers to herding rather than shoaling

#52

I do find it fascinating that people who are not native speakers often take to English idioms like HAIRY really well :smiley:

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#53

Certainly true.

FYI I lived in the Wilhelma Zoo in Stuttgart for a long while. Though my interest was mainly in Bonobos, who are not quite so hairy …

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#54

…and I believe they have a characteristic handshake as well.

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#55

It is a Gorilla experience …

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#56

Ah that is another line to take with the name. Against the Big-internet we could have the following;

  • Gorilla Wiki
  • Resistance is futile - Rif
  • Rebel Wiki
  • Resistance Wiki
  • Freedom Wiki

Regardless I would follow each of the above with “Platform”

#57

Regardless I would follow each of the above with “Platform”

Hmm…

  • Plaki ― the platform within a wiki
  • Platki ?
  • Platiki?
  • Wikformers, platforms in disguise?
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#58

DoppleWiki - like doppelganger, copies of others wikis/apps but Other traditions and stories equate a doppelgänger with an evil twin

#59

freaky.wiki seems to be available. (Please do not hit the link unless you buy it for us. Prices go up then.)

Because TW offers so many degrees of freedom.
in Hosting,
in the way you can customize it,

it rhymes,

and of course its a great tool for freaks.

#60
  • Liberty ???

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