Importing Tiddlers - drag a link

#1

In a browser window I have the tiddler ‘Importing Tiddlers’ from the TiddlyWiki documentation.

The address field of the browser contains the link
“https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Importing%20Tiddlers.html”

I want to import this tiddler into my own TW.

The documentation says

Drag a tiddler link or tag from one TiddlyWiki browser window to another. Dragging a link will import a single tiddler…

If I try this, an ‘Import’ tiddler opens and offers me to import an ‘Untitled’ tiddler. I would expect to see the title of the tiddler I selected.

When I choose import, I don’t get the tiddler, but a new ‘Untitled’ tiddler containing an external link to the tiddler I wanted to import.

What did I miss, to get the tiddler and not a link to it?

-Reinhard

#2

As indicated by the URL, https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Importing%20Tiddlers.html, you are attempting to import from a static rendering of that tiddler. The static rendering is not the actual tiddler, but rather a completely separate HTML file that is generated from the original tiddler.

Note at the top of the page, where it says:
“This page is part of a static HTML representation of the TiddlyWiki at https://tiddlywiki.com/”.

Thus, to import the tiddler:

  1. Follow the link to https://tiddlywiki.com/
  2. Enter “importing” into the sidebar search field
  3. Drag-and-drop the “Importing Tiddlers” link from the search results
#3

This doesn’t work as well.

I tried public wikis

https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionConfirmWidget

https://tiddlywiki.com/#"TW5%20Magick"%20by%20Stephan%20Hradek

as well as some of my local wikis.

Always, only the link to external tiddler (on the Internat or in my local file system) is imported, not the tiddler itself.

Maybe I misunderstood what I should drag. I’ve always dragged the link from the address field of the browser, because my sidebar was closed and I didn’t find a ‘handle’ to grab the tiddler I wanted to import.

I just happened to find out that if I drag the title (name) of the tiddler from the sidebar, everything works fine.

Probably, this should be mentioned in the documentation.

-Reinhard

#4

Ah, that is indeed not the right thing to drag. I agree the term “link” in ambiguous. I’ll post a PR to clarify this somewhat by referring to “title link” (the doc does say “tiddler link” in one spot but I think “title link” is the better term.

#5

Maybe you should also mention that the sidebar has to be open for drag-and-drop to work. Otherwise you have no ‘handle’ (title/link) you can grab and drag. Dragging the mouse in the text field just marks a region.

-Reinhard

#6

But that is not correct; you can drag any appearance of a title link. BTW, this is a reason why I think titles, i.e the very big letter name at the top of each tiddler, should be a link by default. It has to be manually set to a link in the Controlpanel settings.

#7

The reason it isn’t switched on by default is because of concern that it is confusing for casual users – it means that each title appears as a link that doesn’t go anywhere when it is clicked. That doesn’t generally happen on web pages, which adds to confusion when using TiddlyWiki.

#8

Yeah, you’ve said this before… but I think it does more bad than good to not make it default. This thread shows one example. It is simply useful to have the titles as links, especially as handles, and this I can say for a fact.

One idea (and this I’m sure pmario will looove :wink: ) is to color this particular title link black instead of blue. That way, casual users will not be confused because they won’t know it’s clickable but regular users will know and use it, not least as a handle. Note that links these days are not always blue and especially not in e.g “blogs” and similar that, like TW, has multiple entries/posts in a “river”.

#9

I agree. The perceived downside, I believe, is soon overcome by even casual users, the “penny dropping” that they’re already viewing the thing they tried to act on.

If title-links don’t already do this, they should navigate i.e. be scrolled to top where possible. Then, at least, users see “something” happening.

No. No. No. :wink:

#10

We could also make tiddler titles be draggable without making it be a link…

#11

:man_facepalming:

That’s a face-palm moment. Thanks, I think :wink:

#12

Ah, great idea! I’ve posted a gh request.

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