How Much Effort Would a Completely New UI be?

[LoryMoney]

@CodaCoder

It took me a couple of weeks to shroud my wife’s portfolio TiddlyWiki for a university course. To look at, it’s much like a blog, I guess – certainly nothing like a TiddlyWiki

The result might be interesting, is this something you want to/can share?

[CodaCoder]

@LoryMoney

is this something you want to/can share?

Unfortunately, no.  

[LoryMoney]

@pmario

There are probably a 100 more features, that are difficult to implement atm. There are a probably a 100 things, that we did wrong in the current structure, but backwards compatibility makes changes hard.

Definitely backwards compatibility is a core feature that we can’t afford to lose, but what about a codemod script that takes a wiki and rewrites it to be compatible with modern CSS?

@jeremyruston

“TWX”, which is a future re-working of the TiddlyWiki core that would distill everything we’ve learned from TiddlyWiki 5 but wouldn’t be backwards compatible. It might be very different than TW5: for example, a kernel written in Go or Rust that runs under WASM in the browser. My current thinking is that the first incarnation might not be a wiki at all, but a Figma-like shared vector editor with all the organisation, transclusion and composition features of TiddlyWiki.

I guess TWX might eventually come to save the day

[Sunny]

May I add another suggestion, Thomas Elmiger’s Plugins
A number of items on this page show layout options Tix being the latest, simpler versions such as Btx Bottom toolbar experience, Lox and Tix - A new kind of tiddler experience – incredibly flexible and configurable thanks to several parts: top, header, the standard tiddler body and a footer.
See Tix configuration for example.

[TW_Tones]

@LoryMoney

I guess TWX might eventually come to save the day

There are a lot of ways to customise the the current Page Layout and all elements, so personaly I would not bother. But I can understand someone may want to change things.

• Remember you can load more CSS into you wiki and use it as desired
  • However I recomend at least initialy new page template and the ability to change layouts ctrl-shift-L to select.

See this earlier example of a TiddlyWiki as Kanban Tekan — Kanban that stays with you

• You cant even see its a TiddlyWiki

New layouts are effectyivly a different front end

• The advantage of this approach is you can switch back to the familular interface to do sophisticated changes, add tools and features etc… that you may add to your front end.
  • For Example Maps, Calendars, PastUp that @EricShulman has developed.

But perhaps there is no need to wait for TWX as there are bigger changes that may not be backwardly compatible for TW 5.4 being discussed.

• I think there is an argument to add more hackability to change/replace the front end if someone wants to do the work, but I belive we need a few tweeks in the PageTemplae process.