File Uploads plugin beta: feedback

[saqimtiaz]

Aug 17th, 2021: Community Call: Core Savers & Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Discourse Forum

Hello @saqimtiaz, Your plugin is amazing, this is so much better than the hack I was using until now ! I’m particularly excited about the RSS support this will bring to TW I wanted that for my blog for a long time and while fraidycat is unbelievably cool it’s not the best solution, especially for big wikis. I know that there already is a solution for that but nothing that is really automatic. I have some suggestions (for the GitHub part of the plugin) : Allowing the user to wri…

@telumire thank you for the feedback. Replying to you here to consolidate all feedback in one place.

@telumire

Your plugin is amazing, this is so much better than the hack I was using until now ! I’m particularly excited about the RSS support this will bring to TW I wanted that for my blog for a long time and while fraidycat is unbelievably cool it’s not the best solution, especially for big wikis. I know that there already is a solution for that but nothing that is really automatic.

Just to clarify, the plugin itself only does file uploads for binary files. However, the long term goal is to refactor the core to introduce all the new capabilities discussed yesterday including RSS. The work on the plugin right now helps in that (a) it means users can make use of the File Uploads feature now, and (b) it helps us understand how to implement these new features and test ideas and gather feedback towards that end.

So the plugin is the first step towards adding all these abilities to the core.

@telumire

I have some suggestions (for the GitHub part of the plugin) :

• Allowing the user to write a commit message when saving to github for better backup management
• A link to the github page in the plugin settings to quickly go to the online version of the wiki

Since the plugin itself is only concerned with file uploads will happen automatically in the background, a commit message wouldn’t have much relevance here. However, the suggestion is a good one for the long term goal of being able to upload/sync different things to Github.

I would be very happy for their to be greater community support for the Github uploader.

@telumire

I also have a question : my understanding is that this plugin will eventually allow uploading individual tiddlers to GitHub from a single file, static tiddlywiki, without uploading the whole wiki. Is that correct ?

Yes that is correct but as part of the long term goal for the core that was discussed on the call, and not via this plugin itself. However, the work on this plugin facilitates that future work on the core.

@telumire

Would it be possible then to have Tiddlywiki lazy load tiddlers from GitHub to a single-file Tiddlywiki ? Because the one thing I’m afraid with using Tiddlywiki as a heavy sized website/blog, is the loading time…

This isn’t something I have thought much about myself but I definitely think it is within the realm of what would be possible with the new features we are envisioning, except the lazy loading part which is always a challenge with the way TiddlyWiki works (filters etc assume all tiddlers are available).

@telumire

Another thing that would be great is the possibility to use the upload plugin locally. I know that the upcoming version of TW will support drag and dropping image into tiddler, which is great, but it imports the images in the wiki itself. The upload plugin would allow to save the image in a local folder instead and link it inside a tiddler to keep the wiki light, which would be awesome for image-heavy wiki (manual, student notebook, etc).

Yes absolutely, with enough community support a local file uploader module would be an option. As of yet the only uploader that received significant community support and funding was Fission.

@telumire

Regarding the founding of TW, how about the blender model ? They also work on a donation basis + have corporate backers

At first glance, I don’t see anything in their model that OpenCollective doesn’t already offer. In addition to monthly subscriptions, there is also the possibility to do fund raising for individual projects.

See:

• File Upload Plugins for TiddlyWiki - Open Collective
• TiddlyWiki - Open Collective

The advantage with OpenCollective is that it is a promising concept with an established and flexible system that we can leverage instead of trying to create our own.