Inside a note click on the “+” to add an image.
I’m thinking of inserting a macro that would expose the image editing interface to either a blank canvas or an existing image.
…and the canvas shows mid text-editor? (And what “+” - the New Tiddler button?) Sorry, I want to understand but I don’t.
Can you show a mockup image of this here? I just have a hard time envisioning it but I’m intrigued. (You can just doodle it on paper and post an image if that is the quickest way to show a mockup.)
Sorry – I was talking about Google Keep. You said you couldn’t see how to add images to text notes. It adds images as headers, which was, I guess, the primary purpose.
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Ah, sorry for my misunderstanding! But actually it is the drawing tool that is unavailable, not the images tool. The drawing tool is what is used for doodling, of course.
Aha - preview! But of course! Must digest this idea.
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Once you’ve added and image, you can click on it and the app will switch to the image. You can then click on the crayon in the upper right corner which will turn on the drawing tools so you can doodle away. But only on the photo.
I withdraw my previous more negative comment. That comment being that “paper rules” still. Maybe that is changing & maybe I was wrong?
What I do want to say here is there is a relationship to hardware setups that matters.
Matters, I think, to how well that simple, neat thing you did would work.
On tablet PCs and Chromebooks pretty ace so long as you can easily go full-screen in the edit. Why? Because the drawing via electro-pen still doesn’t have the finesse of the pencil on paper so having Señor Max-Screen running the party is better?
I always find it frustrating to glimpse the potential knowing it varies in achievability by platform setup.
Just a side comment
TT
OK… I just realized there is, almost, a solution which is part of a bigger thing: Some two years ago, fellow @saqimtiaz helped out tremendously with the underlying code for EditorMagic. It was brought to a proof-of-concept stage but not to official-demo stage because it is too slow. Briefly: EditorMagic enables you to, directly in the editor, trigger a custom popup by just typing a command. The popup can contain anything, including a canvas to create an image and insert a transclusion of it in the editor in one go. If you understand it is not a demo, you can test it here by e.g typing [[ or <table or other commands.
So… I’m “closing” this thread. I should pick up EditorMagic and beg for help. But it is a project that demands a level of engagement that I can’t dedicate to it right now so it will have to wait. But, by all means, if anyone is interested to pick it up I’d do what I can to support.
You could try picking out only the strictly necessary ideas for this context:
- Toolbar button (and keyboard shortcut) that brings up a popup centred over the editor, a bit like dragging and dropping files does.
- popup lets you etch and sketch.
- popup has a button that closes it and inserts a transclusion to that image
Thanks, that makes sense and I’ll look into it.
(Incidentally, as I play with it now I wonder if I just found a source for the slowness: If I type [[Ed and continue to type letters for a tiddler title, the popup moves along. Maybe this position recalculation takes a lot of work and it should stay fixed at starting pos…)
Ok. But it is an interesting thread for me in two ways …
1 - getting a logic in TW that doodles dynamically easily (I think that was your main intent?)
2 - and, less commented on in the thread, but I find relevant, the aspect of hardware/software mediated input systems available.
Just a comment
TT
Well, the solution (or realization) that I bring up will do this. Incidentally a lot more also.
Please start your own thread. That is another discussion and even beyond the scope of TW.
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It’s always mainly in scope given that TW is a bunch of things that basically can do anything a browser can. The Browser can use what an O/S offers so TW v. the rest is incorrect. TW is “in it” to an extent most webpages aren’t.
But I do get your point. That I segue maybe too easily. I simply can’t easily separate form from functions.
Philosophy over 
TT
Keep in mind the current thread is “Doodling is critically lacking in TW!” which is something others may wish to pursue. If you feel it is now about editor magic, perhaps rename this one, create a new “Doodling is critically lacking in TW!” with a pointer to the “Editor Magic one” or something similar?
I for one kept out of this thread for a while (for various reasons including time and time zone) but believe I have something to add to the original thread title. However I am reluctant to be the 45th reply.
Yes, that’s fine, but my comment was a reply to TT’s comment about him wanting to talk about “the aspect of hardware/software mediated input systems available” which is not about “Doodling is critically lacking in TW”. If you look at it in reverse; Anyone who does want to talk about “the aspect of hardware/software mediated input systems available” - are they going to find it based on the title of this thread? No, it is clearly better in a separate thread.
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…and that is yet another reason why threads shouldn’t go totally off the rails.
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On “Doodling is critically lacking in TW!” I agree but I would extend this to be
“Doodling is critically lacking in the world of software”.
I will not make this a big post by explaining this, hopefully its self evident.
That is, what I can do on my piece of paper, far exceeds any drawing application, but such doodles do not integrate with any software. Drawing itself is less than easy on most computer interfaces. The are some good attempts but we need one to “plugin” to TiddlyWiki.
Perhaps an interactive SVG editor, wikitext integration and an overlay method could get us closer to doodling Nervana, integrated with tiddlywiki. Such doodles could use the html elements to anchor on so insertions don’t break the existing doodles?
TiddlyWiki should not be responsible for providing solutions to every need we can imagine, but we can use it to embed the results, and ideally we can leverage another project with doodling as its focus and ideally bring it in as another editor, hopefully integrated with wikitext and images.