Catastrophic problem with layout

#1

  1. This machine is running Windows 11. I am using Tiddlyhost. I have NO plugins (I don’t know how to do that).

  2. I am disabled. Every word of this message has had at least one typo. DO NOT say “this is easy,” not unless you want to try typing that message while wearing a pair of oven mitts first.

  3. As a result of the problems caused by item 2, I have /serious/ problems with most “under the hood” actions. I try to avoid them.

This is now an urgent situation but I cannot get results no matter how often I change the settings to match what I have found online or in the default Tiddlywiki settings.

The situation: I moved the mouse while doing something and suddenly the sidebar takes up the full screen and then some. I can see the last five or six letters of a fifteen-letter tiddler title. The individual (single only) tiddler opens below the entire sidebar menu, which now requires scrolling at least a screen and a half.

I’ve tried to go through the settings and copy them item by item from a blank new tiddlywiki. It won’t change.

I’ve tried to export the file as a whole. That seemed to work. BUT I have never been able to import the save to a new tiddlywiki.

I’m using the Tiddlyhost because I cannot fiddle with the bits and bobs to get the desktop version to unzip or install. (Mechanical issues with my hands and the mouse.) Taking the machine to Best Buy or another computer support service wouldn’t help unless the person had already worked with Tiddlywiki.

So, here I am.

The file is the equivalent of a Master’s thesis, and incredibly important to me. Starting over is not an option.

Please help.

#2

Hi DD, I do have no real idea, how that could happen. Can you post a screenshot of your wiki, so we have an idea how it looks like.

With Windows you can “push” the [Print] button. It should allow you to create a screenshot, that can be pasted into a post here.

#3

Does it help (temporarily) to use a keyboard shortcut to close the sidebar?

shift-alt-S on Windows
shift-opt-S on a mac

You don’t mention anything about text getting enlarged. I know on my mac there are gestures or “helpful” shortcuts that can trigger something like a zoom-in effect that can be very hard to get out of. I’m curious whether there’s anything like that going on.

Tiddlyhost dashboard should have an option to upload a version of a file to replace an existing one. (Maybe download a copy of your current tiddlyhost file first, just in case the result is not helpful.) I have the paid version of tiddlyhost ($8 monthly), and it helpfully lets me rewind to any prior saved version. That has gotten me out of some pickles. :slight_smile:

I’ll try to stay tuned in case you have an update.

#4

Oh no! Here’s how I’d recover:

  1. Grab a new empty wiki
  2. Drag your old wiki onto it
  3. Import your “master’s thesis” only from the import dialog
  4. Export / save / copy it somewhere
  5. Finish working on it (deadline dependent)
  6. Keep importing more tiddlers into an empty wiki until you find the culprit

Good luck!

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#6

I am working from Tiddlyhost (you can see that in the address bar of the screen capture. Does that still work? If it will, I’ll keep trying until I manage it.

Thank you for the suggestion.

#7

I will be going out now and returning later in the day. I would be prepared to use zoom or team manager or another remote control tool. If you can export your wiki to file and can share it with someone it may be easier to repair.

  • I have seem a similar problem before, but dont recall what caused it.
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#8

You could CTRL-S to save, or maybe use wget or curl to grab the wiki. I have never used TiddlyHost.

#9

Specific to closing the sidebar: No go. (Cut out several minutes of frustrated Anglo-Saxon.)

Thank you, though, I’d not learned any of the keyboard shortcuts because the mistyping issue is so aggravating for me. Necessity is truly the mother of many things, including determination along with invention.

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#10

I checked the zoom, and even resetting it to 90% of screen size did not give me more than three or four letters of the cut off titles.

I am very, very bewildered.

#11

On your screen shot I can see the >> to close the sidebar, I assume you tried this?

#12

Sure. Absolutely NOTHING resizes it. I’ve gotten into the control panel and tried everything that I can think of. First, systematically, then random values. Nada.

#13

The drag and drop doesn’t seem to work from Tiddlyhost, since that’s online.

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#14

If you are loged in, the tiddlyhost management UI tiddlyhost.com/sites, gives you the possibility to download your wiki.

This wiki could then be imported with drag & drop into an empty.html

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#15

Download successful. “Drag and drop into an empty HTML” is where I’m not following. An empty Tiddlywiki? An empty .HTML file? Clearly, I’ve never done this before.

#16

https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted has a big Download button that will give you a copy of empty.html. If you open that, you’ll get a minimal wiki. This is where you should drag your downloaded copy.

#17

You can easily update TiddlyStudy to the latest TW version.

  • Download empty.html from tiddlywiki.com
  • Save your wiki from tiddlyhost
  • Open empty.html file in your browser, by double clicking it in your OS file explorer
  • Open the file explorer of your OS and drag & drop your wiki html file onto the browser with empty.html
  • There will be an Import tiddler
  • Import everything and you have TW v5.3.8 and TiddlyStudy.

Instead of importing everything, you could select your content tiddlers and avoid tiddlers that start with $:/ … Just an idea.

If empty.html is broken too, just delete it and start over, but this time even import less content …

Hope that helps

#18

It didn’t work

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the download imported as a single tiddler with one word of text in it.

#19

If the file isn’t something intensely personal, perhaps you could make it public for a few minutes? So someone can better advise you?

#20

You did drag & drop your file downloaded from tiddlyhost into empty? … If it only contains 1 tiddler that’s bad.

@simon … Can you help?