Cannot delete tiddlers

#1

Hi,

For the past few days, I’ve noticed that there are two tiddlers that I’m unable to delete. When I press the “delete” button, nothing happens.

If I rename the tiddler or change anything in it and then delete it, it reappears again when I reopen the wiki.

Could anyone help me with this?

Best regards.

#2

what are they called? Do you have plugins installed?

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#3

Shadow tiddlers or regular ones?

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#4

Is this served as a single-file wiki, over Node, or over one of the desktop offerings?

#5

Do you mean click the delete button on the tiddler in question?

Have a look using the Info or circled I button (maybe under more) and then you can see additional information about your tiddler. Of particular note is you must be able to save the wiki correctly or deleted tiddlers will appear again after a reload.

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#6

Hi everyone,

I’ll try to give more information.

I’m running a single-file TiddlyWiki using tw5-server and Caddy for remote access, and I’m experiencing an issue with “missing tiddlers” appearing unexpectedly — tiddlers that don’t actually exist yet, shown with the “create this tiddler” prompt in the footer (…).

I haven’t intentionally linked to them, and I’m struggling to understand where these references are coming from. My best guesses so far are:

  • A plugin that generates references to non-existent tiddlers
  • Old or incomplete wikilinks left somewhere in my content
  • Some tiddler metadata pointing to titles that were never created

Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to trace where a missing tiddler is being referenced from?

Thanks for your patience.
PS: Sorry for my (bad) english.

#7

Try searching for the titles that appear including in all fields, you may need to write a search filter.

  • Check your default tiddlers
#8

Is there any chance that you can put a copy of this wiki in some public place (e.g. Tiddlyhost) so that we can investigate directly? It’s understood if that’s not possible. I have some wikis I can just repost and others I cannot, for various reasons.

If not, are there any clues in the names of these tiddlers?

One possibilitiy: check what’s in $:/DefaultTiddlers. Could they have been accidentally included there? Or similarly, perhaps you’ve chosen to “Retain Story Ordering” (and thus $:/DefaultTiddlers contains [list[$:/StoryList]]). This does not explain why they don’t delete when you tell them to, but might explain the persistence.

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#9

Are they appearing spontaneously DURING a session, or they appear at load time?

If at load time, there could be a number of factors. Check your default tiddlers setting (in the control panel), and also check whether you’re unwittingly [loading] something like a browser hash such as https://tiddlywiki.com/#nonExisting

What kinds of names do these unexpected “missing” tiddlers have? Do they look like they’re generated at the system level (say, by a plugin), or do the names look like things that might actually connect to old or outdated content for your wiki?

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#10

Solved!

I found “some problems”, but I think everything is fixed now:

  • I renamed a few tiddlers that started with icons or parentheses, like:
    • (LM) Javascript aula
    • :bookmark: Progreso Alumno
  • I was using the wiki through a Vivaldi PWA, and it had saved the full URL including the # part with some tiddler titles, which caused the strange “ghost tiddlers”. My mistake, but hard to spot.
  • I also removed the “Project” plugin homepage from “Default tiddlers”.

THANKS again for your help, and sorry for the trouble!

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