Bret victor - vibe

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This is very interesting and has a Bret Victor vibe. I welcome visual attention anchors like indentation, syntax highlight and icons in my GUI apps. At the same time I can’t stand emojis in my TUI/CLI apps, to the point that I’m cursing and raging when they are hardcoded and there’s no setting to turn them off

@vuk ;D

so hear is some of the vibe in question , in case it might be of interest

Bret Victor - Media for Thinking the Unthinkable .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUaOucZRlmE

i wanted to post about
THIS : Bret Victor - Inventing on Principle

- YouTube

specifically the example with the “turtle game”
and trying to line up some variables so the player can “make the jump”

but iv got distracted ((un)help full automaton )
and failed (it appears) to keep hold of my train of thought

any way ill post this in the hope
the vibe might be inspiring
some how

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-note-

a) wtf is https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/message-bus/ doing to my bandwidth/data
is it like the depressed robot from hitchhikers guide ?
.Marvin the Paranoid Android - Wikipedia
constantly asking is any one there ?

or are the admin selling key-stroke data to big AI?

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b)

Your topic is similar to…

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is really is not ffs:toast any one ?

also no , its nowt like this ether

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[jeremyruston]

I’m a big fan of Bret Victor’s writings. Particularly at the start of TW5 his ideas were very influential for me.

I’d also recommend the writing of Steve Witten at https://acko.net/. His writing is more technical, but grounded in unusual perspectives. He’s got a way with words, too. This quote from his latest article hits hard for me:

Every templating language wants to become a programming language

[pmario]

I did like this talk, when I saw it the first time — a long time ago. The presented IDEs (software editors) are nice. … It would be nice if it would be available other than the demos.

What is not shown in the presentation is, how to evaluate the code in real-time. There is a lot of (hidden) software that makes that possible. Especially if the code on the left is “incomplete” or “invalid”.

We can see this with our TW preview area, which occasionally goes “haywire” if procedure calls use invalid parameters. So the “backend” has to be very fault tolerant and specific at the same time to make live editing happen.

IMO an other downside is, that the “backend” also has to be quite use-case specific and probably fails with unknown generic examples. That may be the reason, why this IDEs have not taken over the market by storm. – May be they have, … I just do not know them.

-m

[wiki_user]

@jeremyruston

Steve Witten at https://acko.net/ .

was reminded of the above link
after finding this one https://pyjam.as/
( ftr via GitHub - jstrieb/remote-ofrak: Run OFRAK remotely to modify and repack binaries from your browser )

[TiddlyTitch]

@jeremyruston

Steve Witten at https://acko.net/ .

Very interesting.
I particularly like the graphic-audio design—stellar.

The points made about “the” DOM are beyond me.
I assume it doesn’t involve bondage?

What I do understand is that “standardisation” (of HTML, CSS, JS, SVG) is something of a cleft-stick.
Just Roadblock or a MegaTech-Pocket?
Just wondering.

@wiki_user

was reminded of the above link
after finding this one https://pyjam.as/

Donning jimjams I enjoyed it as an example of something I couldn’t quite grasp—“All Roads Lead To GitLab or Nowhere”?

May the TWorce be with you,
TT

[EricShulman]

@TiddlyTitch

The points made about “the” DOM are beyond me.
I assume it doesn’t involve bondage?

DOM = Document Object Model

[TiddlyTitch]

@jeremyruston

Steve Witten at https://acko.net/ .

Deserves a lot of attention. Not least for prescient (1) visio-audio design …

https://youtu.be/zjwA1VmuPnw?si=1OdDkgOyuaP9jzyB

… and (2) meaningful lyrics about the problems …

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THIS WORLD

I fear real danger
This world ain’t simple
But I’m strong, I know how to get out
And I’ll find my way ‘cause
’Cause it’s love, real simple
And that’s how it works

So won’t you just give it up ‘cause you don’t understand
Big it up but you don’t understand
And it’s really nice, but you don’t understand
So big it up, ‘cause you don’t understand
‘Cause you don’t understand baby

I feel it’s fallin’ down, I know I’ll catch it
You crazy world, crazy world, yeah
I feel real passionate
You feel the sun comes down
I’ll make it shine, yeah
You crazy world, crazy world yeah

I can see your fear ‘cause
This world ain’t simple
But I’m strong, I know how to stay out
And I’ll find my way ‘cause
‘Cause it’s love, it’s love, it’s love, it’s love, it’s loving yeah

So won’t you just give it up
‘Cause you don’t understand
Big it up, but you don’t understand
And it’s really nice, but you don’t understand
So big it up, ‘cause you don’t understand
‘Cause you don’t understand baby

I feel it’s fallin’ down, I know I’ll catch it
You crazy world, crazy world, yeah.
I feel real passionate
You feel the sun comes down,
I’ll make it shine, yeah
You crazy world, crazy world yeah

I feel it’s fallin’ down, I know I’ll catch it
You crazy world, crazy world, yeah.
I feel real passionate
You feel the sun comes down,
I’ll make it shine, yeah
You crazy world, crazy world yeah
Crazy world, crazy world yeah
Crazy world, crazy world yeah

TT

[TiddlyTitch]

@jeremyruston

I’m a big fan of Bret Victor’s writings. Particularly at the start of TW5 his ideas were very influential for me.

I’d also recommend the writing of Steve Witten at https://acko.net/

Right.

Intent

Great resource.
TT

[wiki_user]

@EricShulman

DOM = Document Object Model

introductory entry point Explain DOM Like I'm Five - DEV Community

@TiddlyTitch

I assume it doesn’t involve bondage?

afaik that depends if one can read the source for their gpu driver sans nda tbh

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not to mention other philosophical considerations wrt software
https://suckless.org/philosophy/

(i was just reminded of “minimum viable planet” quote from bret-victor What can a technologist do about climate change? A personal view.
reading this linked suckles … after searching other doc-obj-mod criticism )

… the link , it turns out was about the “Erlang ticket system”
https://joearms.github.io/published/2014-06-25-minimal-viable-program.html

*disappears back to adding features to https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlrobinson/martin.sh/refs/heads/master/martin.sh *

XD

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Generating PAL Video With A Heavily Overclocked Pi Pico

https://hackaday.io/project/177817/logs

reminds me of some interesting history behind gfx chips
and similar afair ( cant find the link/reff atm ) old parallel ? hw prototype designs
failing because of some contamination in part of manufacturing process
among other factors

:e

[TiddlyTitch]

@wiki_user

@EricShulman

DOM = Document Object Model

introductory entry point Explain DOM Like I’m Five - DEV Community

Useful for us hoi polloi to decko!

A quote from there …

The DOM is the in-memory representation of the current HTML that [is] used to construct the page the browser is currently displaying.

edited by me for clarity

Tx, TT

[TiddlyTitch]

@wiki_user

philosophical considerations wr[i]t[ing] software
https://suckless.org/philosophy/

my edits

I don’t have an opinion on whether that is opinionated (my comment is NOT computing opinionated).

It is interesting.
I like the site commits a world-view.

Tx, TT

[TiddlyTitch]

@wiki_user

… the link , it turns out was about the “Erlang ticket system”
https://joearms.github.io/published/2014-06-25-minimal-viable-program.html

Joe Armstrong, deceased, co-creator of Erlang, came to TW late.
He and @jeremyruston were friends.

JA wrote a lot about TW in the universe of computable directions well.
His summary …

The Quine thing is central. JA saw that mattered.

Just commentary
TT

[wiki_user]

@TiddlyTitch

The Quine thing is central.

the sentiment reminded me of

https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2024/adventures-on-the-quest-for-long-term-reproducible-deployment/

(see also JA: “the mess we’r in” … )

a different (more broad) slant on reproducible replication

that takes aim at “all the turtles”
ref : .Turtles all the way down - Wikipedia

let on turtle go un-turned !

@TiddlyTitch

JA wrote a lot about TW

indeed
tbh this i how discovered JA and associated lectures/talks ect