Announcing a TiddlyWiki App for Apple Devices

Q: Would you be interested in a TiddlyWiki app?

Of course and I think this is a great idea too with many opportunities, like you wrote.

Q: What would you use the app for?

Mainly for keeping track of my countless ideas and keep vital information at my fingertips. Of course there are many other apps on iOS doing the same. But over the last 15 months I got familiar with TiddlyWiki and it’s versatile configuration that I rarely use other things/apps.
I find it tempting to tinker around with TiddlyWiki whenever I have some spare time left, because I almost keep my mobile phone with me.

Oh, almost forgot that I use it heavily at work to gather all sort of valuable information (small projects, contacts, meetings, how-to’s, ticket-tracking, etc.) - never could stay alive without it!
That’s way I’m really keen on having a full working TiddlyWiki instance on my mobile - we are moving towards Windows11 at the office and there will be several security measures, too. Like allowing execution for certain registered apps (all others will be blocked, therefore no local webDAV server), encrypted USB devices only (no decryption outside the office environment means no data transfer to and from private devices) and potentially no custom PlugIns for Web Browsers (means no use of Pmario’s “file backup plugin” ).

Q: How much would you pay per year/month for a TiddlyWiki application that works on all your devices?

I hate software subscriptions in general, because costs tend to pile up. I bought several apps in the past, most of them were one-time-payment. I don’t like to pay for ALL of them in a subscription model.
But for a TiddlyWiki App I would change my mind - why?
It’s finally a good opportunity to spend you some money for your great concept and your many ideas and continous hard work.
15 to 20 pounds per month would be fine for me.

Q: What areas of functionality are important to you?

I’m actually using Quine2 and a webDAV server at home. Along with “Filebrowser Professional” (www.stratospherix.com) and a custom user sync (which runs periodically in the background) I can keep all of my (single-file) Wikis up to date on all of my devices. Filebrowser Pro was a one-time payment and is well worth the money.

As long as the iOS app keeps up with the same functionality like single-file Wikis, this would be fine for me. Sync would be done with Filebrowser Professional.
But I’d also like to evolve, using MultiWiki-Server and node.js TiddlyWiki - so yes, if I could get this additional functionality it would be very nice, too.

What I don’t like is being pushed to use cloud services. As an option, this would be alright, but I also need a chance to keep my data local.

Q: What apps do you already pay for? What makes them good value for money?

Filebrowser Professional (tons of options, the perfect file manager on iOS). Quine2, to run TiddlyWiki on my Apple device.
Most of my app purchases were done to get rid of the annoying ads :wink:

Q: Do you prefer upfront or subscription pricing?

Subscription pricing preferred to show support for Jeremy’s work.

Q: Do you see any risks or downsides with exploring this opportunity?

In the worst case the App isn’t approved by Apple - so I think it is important that you try to approve it early.
But on the other hand I can’t see a real problem why it shouldn’t be approved.
Positive thinking!

Looking forward for a first test with Testflight - where can I sign in? :+1: :sunglasses:

Sure I will benefit from a TW App for Apple, for now I have TiddlyPWA on my Iphone and I use it on a daily basis.

I wonder, which improvements/new features would this native IOs App bring in comparation to a PWA instance of TW?

Hi Jeremy,
Reading again what Features are planned, I thing I would buy the App. But please make it a Single payment.
Sudcription would be okay, if you would provide a service that could replace my hoster.
Here is my idea for the app. It would be great if you tiddlers to desktop widgets. EG to Build your own idea aggregator

[1] Selective Sync-to-Cloud: For a PIM/ Zettelkasten/ Digital Mind Garden (whatever you wanna call it) to serve as one’s Trusted System (per GTD-speak), data storage must be local-first, with the ability to sync subsets of selected content (i.e. a set of tagged or filtered tiddlers) to one’s choice of online repository (could be different wikis, each w/ own cloud clone, i guess via MWS?).

[2] Markdown: .MD being the defacto lingua franca for rich text content across platforms, this is essential for dynamic flow of content to the outside world (i.e. WWW). If TW retains WikiText as its default format for all .TID files, that is OK, just so long as user can set .MD as the default format for all content flowing out to selected online sources, as a “one-and-done” parameter config.

[3] Interop: As a paying subscriber to Apple’s iCloud services, that is a logical choice for the sync partner at least initially… But, in the interest of growing our installed user base well beyond the Apple ecosystem (which >90% of previous posters in this thread would clearly like to see!), it would be very good if sync to competitive cloud services were ot be enabled.

Finally @jeremyruston i have to ask: is this project still ongoing? I went to the Github repo, but there’s been no update there in more than 2 months, so…Any news on this front, i would be most interested to hear about it -and if there’s anything like a TestFight beta release on the horizon, please deal me in!

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D o you need beta testers? I have the tester app you mentioned and have been an everyday user since 2005 who has been searching for iOS method of working with my large nodejs tiddlywiki.

Very much so. I’m currently an Apple user with regards to a Smartphone but Windows for desktop.

It depends on the limitiations with regards to how many seperate wiki’s I can have. I currently have a number of them that are used on a regular basis but the main one is a journal/ organizer.

I’m not sure and it would depend of functionality and what happens to my data after a subscription ends. Current thoughts are about £3-£5 a month though I would prefer a one off payment model.

For Tiddlywiki it would be the ability to access and edit multiple wiki’s on my phone and yet still have access to them on my Windows machines.

I like to locally host my wiki’s so not sure how this will work. Ones I want access to via my phone I currently use Dropbox.

Currently only paying for media subscription services that have apps such as Audible and Netflix, though probably won’t be on the latter for to much longer. Content and ease of accessability.

Upfront payment gives me a greater sense of ownership which is one of the reasons I like TiddlyWiki so much.

My only concerns on how my wiki’s will be synched across platforms without being in the cloud. I can already access for ready only purposes TiddlyWiki via dropbox so the only real benefit of an app is the ability to write and update.

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