Take the TiddlyWiki Community Survey 2025

[yan]

I’m the co-author of the survey, along with Jeremy. This has been a long time in the making and I’m looking forward to the results with much anticipation.

I didn’t mention it @jeremyruston, but I was tweaking the CSS last night for the survey I’m doing for the other organisation I’m involved with. I realised it would be a good fit for TW so with just hours to go, I went ahead and took some TiddlyWIki colours and fonts from tiddlywiki.com - which I am very pleased with. They don’t let you customise much but the survey still has a TiddlyWiki feel.

It’s saved to my EUSurvey account, but should you wish to use this survey software in the future, you can use my snippet of ‘euss’ (their dialect of CSS) below.

TiddlyWiki-style.euss (for use with EUSurvey)

.answertext {
color: #333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal;
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.info-box {
color: #333333; 
background-color: #FFE476; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 12px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.link {
color: #0088CC; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.linkstitle {
color: #333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 16px; 
font-weight: 600; 
} 

.matrix-header {
color: #333333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: 600; 
} 

.questionhelp {
color: #A9A9A9; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 12px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.questiontitle {
color: #333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.right-area {
color: #333333; 
background-color: #ffffff; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.sectiontitle {
color: #182955; 
border-color: #182955; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 20px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.surveytitle {
color: #5778D8; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 24px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

.table-header {
color: #333333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: 600; 
} 

.text {
color: #333333; 
background-color: transparent; 
font-family: -apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",system-ui,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";
font-style: normal; 
font-size: 14px; 
font-weight: normal; 
} 

[yan]

I bumped into this as well! I did take my sweet time on the last couple of questions to be fair. Thankfully, all my input up to that point was retained so I just had to re-enter the captcha.

[pmario]

@yan

I’m the co-author of the survey, along with Jeremy. This has been a long time in the making and I’m looking forward to the results with much anticipation.

Thanks to both of you. I am looking forward to the results.

[Alex_Sleight]

Did one, hope my answers are helpful!

Also +1 on the captcha issue.

As an aside, we should all collectively advocate against captchas overall, recent reporting is that they do very little good, and their proliferation, even in benign forms, opens people up to subversive uses that gather information from them without reporting it. This doesn’t appear to be a malicious captcha, but they are not universally safe and helpful. as AI improves they will be even less helpful even in their myriad forms.

[dongrentianyu]

I’ve filled it out and submitted it successfully. I feel that the question and answer questions on the survey are too short and there are not enough words. When I see a lot of interesting questions in there, I want to respond to them. But there are never enough words.

Maybe If this type of questionnaire doesn’t cost anything, I would recommend doing it once a year. Or once per version update. Even though most of the time it’s probably filled out by old users, maybe some new ones will join.

[WhiteFall]

Did one, hope my answers are helpful!

[Eskha]

Done.

One issue: the WikiInformation dump input field is too limited in its number of characters (I had to remove the content of the Disabled plugins to go below the threshold).

[yan]

That comes as a surprise to me actually! Could you provide a count of characters and newlines please from your wiki info? It’s probably an undocumented limit for the software this survey is using, on either of those factors. Thanks.

[Eskha]

@Yan

“This question type does not allow more than 5000 characters”

My report has indeed 5 063 characters and 98 lines.

[jeremyruston]

@Eskha

My report has indeed 5 063 characters and 98 lines.

Very impressive, and a useful data point as it is way beyond what I would have predicted.

[Springer]

Quick note:

In the survey’s “How do you save?” question, it’s not obvious to a naive user which answer should be used for people who save via TiddlyHost, because they (we) just do not have to think about it or configure it at all (so it feels like a “default” to them, and they never have to interact with any “custom saver” as far as they can see.)

I figure “custom saver” is a more reasonable answer than any other in this list), but it’s odd not to see it explicitly mentioned:

(The next question does mention TiddlyHost — but may imply that it’s not for routine saving, but rather for coping with working and backing-up “between systems”.)

[yan]

That is a fair point, thank you. I don’t use TiddlyHost. I think it is based on Node - and I agree a participant may not know what to select in this case. Definitely one we’ll bear in mind as a caveat.

[arunnbabu81]

There is also an app called Tiddlywiki App based on node js wiki. That option also is not there I guess

[Justin_H]

@CodaCoder

@jeremyruston That captcha at the end was a royal pain. Took me 5 attempts.

2 attempts on android (graphene os) I guess I got lucky haha

Only trouble for me is that I couldn’t provide an example of my wiki, as I started the served on my phone, and couldn’t add to my tw from tiddloid to the servey extractor code from tw-com

[Springer]

@Justin_H

I couldn’t provide an example of my wiki

I had a devil of a time figuring out which is my “most-used wiki” — and my wikis are configured pretty differently from one another!

[Mark_S]

No, it’s not node. It’s a web service that can save single-file TiddlyWikis. It is the way recommended in the top of GettingStarted, so it’s omission will likely make the results less meaningful. Probably a good idea to always have a category “other”.

[Offray]

Thanks for this initiative. I already made my contribution. While I choose to share my answers, I wonder if there is a way to annonymize personal information (like sex, gender, age) while sharing the rest of the response openly. This survey only have age as a personal information, but the sharing everything/none was kind of eye-catching to make me think about how we will share the collected information for this and future surveys.

BTW, My captcha attempts were only 2. I think I’m not a robot, but some capcha should include the option “not sure”

[yan]

Hello, and absolutely. Right on the survey itself, the question describes exactly how the data will be used if you choose to share.

With your consent, we would like to publish responses to this survey on tiddlywiki.com, in the spirit of open development.

Are you happy for your responses to be available online?

We will not include information on your age or country of birth in the public results. Those items of information will be kept strictly to a small and trusted group of regular contributors and administrators.

[Offray]

Thanks. I miss that part. Good to know.