Project 2036: the future of TiddlyWiki

I’d say that it needs to have a native app.
Why:
1.- Save.
Saving is still terrible after 20 years.

2.- Obsidian.
Obsidian came and stole the spotlight, it is more limited — and focused.

3.- Twine, used for novels.
Even newer tools like Twine have gotten more popular.

In conclusion:

Do like Obsidian and support save out of the box.

TW should hide some of the complexities to reach a wider audience

And also needs a single repository of all plugins

TiddlyDesktop is the official solution to the saving woes, I’m also actively developing a lighter alternative; it’s a proof of concept with a bit more friction at the moment but if you are on windows it might be worth checking out.

LiddlyDesktop

I’m on mac :confused:

Tried it but looked garbled up on start

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See TidGi desktop supports loading multiple folder as a wiki, or serving multiple wiki server

About twine, see how I build my game’s design doc using tw5-graph plugin

Tiddywiki with TidGi is already as good as Obsidian in some aspect.

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I’d say TiddlyHost is equally powerful!

Someone can be up and running with multiple wikis, accessing them equally easily from home and office and mobile, with zero configuration stress. Then the ability to make any wiki public (with or without password protection) is icing on the cake!

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1.- Save.
Saving is part of the arms race between hacker and browsers especially for self hosted. If you have a solution let us hear it, otherwise I use tiddlyhost the most or direct file://

2.- Obsidian.
Pay for it, place your data in their space, reduce your ability to customise/hack

3.- Twine, used for novels.
Twines functionality looks like a small subset of tiddlywiki, so saving in your browser as it does, is already possible in TiddlyWiki. Sure sometimes simpler is better, but not if you want more control.

  • Ask if you want to know how.
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TWINE started life as an experimental plugin for TW! You can see a few references to it buried in the Google group.

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Is the status on Tiddly Desktop prettymuch that it’s not officially being developed?

I think it’s been this way for a year or two.

I always thought the one thing that would have made Tiddly Desktop 10x more valuable would be the ability to use the text-based tiddlers just like the NPM version, and be able to import/export/convert between the text-based wikis and file-based wikis.

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Not at all, I believe it is usually updated along with TiddlyWiki if not after.

It is possible to use Node under TiddlyDesktop, which we call the server/folder implementation of tiddlywiki

Although not recently tested by me I believe this is also possible. Although I remember that the documentation on this is weak.

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