We should call it Amethyst Browser Wiki.
And MWS would be called GemServe because it can more or less support any portable wiki type of software.
This thread is devolving into the most base form of improv.
Why don’t we call it Alfred Jarry’s All Encompassing Self Contained Notation Service, (AJAESCNS for short), and we’ll call them Sexless-Trout instead of Tiddlers.
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true, but I think that’s because those that feel a change is important, are tired of feeling like it’s running in circles with no progress or decisions, so a bit of silly is a way to let out frustration and maybe hope to tickle someone’s inspiration at the same time
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I was serious about my suggestion about Tweaky, and while I use humor, I was mostly defending my idea. I stand by what I wrote and disagree with your “base improv” characterization.
I am quite impressed by this name as well, although I dont wish to rename tiddlywiki, I like calling it “The TiddlyWiki Platform” I think Tweaky is a wonderful name and would serve well as a “nic name”. I for one are always tweaking my TiddlyWikis and love the idea of Tinkering, DIY software etc… and this fits nicely.
So Yes, I think it fair to call it Tweaky between friends and if overheard and asked what tweaky is answer "That is the nic name for the TiddlyWiki Platform.
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just out of curiosity, to roughly gauge opinion (not trying to shut down any other discussion!)…
- tiddlywiki’s name should be changed
- tiddlywiki’s name should not be changed
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(note that this is not asking about the name for tiddlers changing, just the platform name)
and (only) for those who think it should be changed, tiddlywiki’s name should be changed to:
- TWX
- TidWiki
- Tweaky / Tweaker
- none of these, but it should still be changed
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you can select multiple of these options.
i chose them by scrolling back through this thread, TidWiki and Tweaky have been suggested mutiple times by different people (TidWiki also being vouched for by Jeremy) and TWX had that killer logo design and is also used in some internal discussions.
i’d like to stress again that this is just for gauging thoughts among us reading this thread, not as an estimation of public acceptance or to be used for actual decision making.
Changing TiddlyWiki alone is not enough. Tiddler has to be changed too.
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agreed! i had that in the poll originally, but removed it because i didn’t want to split up the results. (i.e, if i added “change just TW” and “change TW and the tiddler”, the “i want change” group would be split while the “i don’t want change” group would not be, biasing the results).
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I wonder if this poll should be moved to its own thread.
I’m sure there are users who skip this three-year-old 200±post thread, but who might have feedback to give here.
i was hoping to use the poll to summarize this thread, and get the opinions of the people posting in this (three-year-old 200±post) thread. there are a lot of posts and posters here, and it is hard to tell what the prevailing outcome is from this extended brainstorming session.
i think if we did a wider poll it should have more background context and the questions should be structured differently, though that would be useful as well to get a better approximation of a general user opinion.
Unusually for me, an idea for a TiddlyWiki slogan/tagline popped into my head (perhaps because somebody else has already suggested it and it made it into my subliminal memory):
"Make something of your notes"
It’s a play on the two meanings of the phrase “make something” in English: “to construct something” and “to get value from”.
I think it conveys some of the essential aspects of TiddlyWiki: that its primary use case is note taking, that it helps you get value from your notes, and that it lets you construct interactive things from your notes.
If one thought “note taking” was too narrow, perhaps it could be “make something of your data”.
At the moment, “HelloThere” has the following tagline:
“Welcome to TiddlyWiki, a unique non-linear notebook for capturing, organising and sharing complex information”
I think it’s a clunky tagline because it is a list of adjectives followed by a list of verbs.
So, I propose to demote the existing tagline to a plain paragraph, and replace it with “Make something of your notes”.
That is, unless somebody can suggest a better candidate?
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I really like it, great double meaning. I do think the biggest differentiator of TW is the almost unlimited ability to “assemble” notes into any shape or program.
From a marketing standpoint I would suggest thinking through the name, tagline, and terms (namely Tiddler) as a package.
Tagline: “Make something of your notes”
Term for tiddler: “Note”
Program name:
Notecraft
Notebench
Nota (Latin for note)
Noteforge
Noteweaver
Sounds very close to “make something of your life”. So wonder if there is something more broadly meaningful than data.
Perhaps?
“Make something of your digital life”
Tag lines realy do help I think to promote ideas around tiddlywiki as I have said prefer I also like calling it the “TiddlyWiki Platform”.
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Just an aside. My first thought of “Make something of your notes” is the absolutely perfect book title “Making Money” from Sir Terry Pratchett, about the introduction of paper notes by the Royal bank and Royal Mint. The title is a word play on “minting” money and also making money.
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I’ve gone ahead and updated HelloThere to use the tagline I proposed. It is not intended to be the last word; I am open to further tweaks and changes. The intention of putting it live is to make it easier for people to assess, and to break the long run of not making substantive changes to our shop front.
Here’s what it looks like:
And here’s the previous version:
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I definitely like the tagline, although I prefer the format first presented: “Make something of your notes.” Adding “with TiddlyWiki” is all right, although unnecessary, but I think changing from “something” to “more” mostly loses the pleasant double-meaning that makes the slogan inspiring.
I love it!
I second what @Scott_Sauyet said.
Also some nit picking, I’d go for a softer background color for the badge. That looks a bit like a warning or error notification.
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I actually like the double meaning of “Make more of your Notes with TiddlyWiki”, as in:
- Get more value from your notes (because TiddlyWiki increases the usefulness of those notes)
AND - Increase the number of notes you create (because TiddlyWiki is easy to use)
-e
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Shurely I made more notes and more of my notes in TW than in any other application. So I support what Eric says.
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My idle thoughts on the difference between “Make something of your notes” and the revised “Make More of Your Notes with TiddlyWiki”
Two things to consider here IMHO.
- “Make Something of Your Notes” vs “Make More of Your Notes”
- tack “With TiddlyWiki” to the end.
- Tackling the second point first, I think adding “With Tiddlywiki” is not great for the TW webpage itself. or when the slogan/subtitle is paired with “TiddlyWiki”. ie, cases where “TiddlyWiki” is already stated, or reasonably known by context.
- For the first point, I lean towards the “Something” rather than the "More, but don’t have a strong view on.
- A wild third point appears: I do think changing “of” to “with” improves either one, (though perhaps at the danger of losing some of those double meanings, and also can’t really tack “with TiddlyWiki” at the end any longer, because repeating “with” is weird)
Anyway, thus:
Make Something With Your Notes
This to me speaks more directly to the strength I find in TW - that it’s a place to make and store and organise notes and build structure with my notes. My content is the focus and core of what is built.