Is there a way to filter tiddlers based on field value alone, not the field name

[arunnbabu81]

Is there a way to filter tiddlers based on field-value alone, not the field-name
I have many tiddlers with different field-names, but the same field-value. Is there a way to filter them based on just the field-value, not the filed-name

[Mohammad]

How about this solution:

<$list filter="[tag[xxx]search:-text:regexp[\b123\b]]">

</$list>

Look into all fields except the text field for all tiddlers tagged with xxx have a word 123. So 8123 or 91230 are excluded

[arunnbabu81]

I should have given more details I guess. I have many tiddlers, which have field-names like cloze, budget and many others like this… All of these fields have the same field-value shadow

What I want is to exclude all these tiddlers (with field-value as shadow irrespective of the field-name) in a filter for creating a button to show a random tiddler based on random filter plug in by yaisog.

Or should I change the way I use fields. Instead of using shadow as field-value, should I use shadow as field-name and different field-values based on the tiddler type.

[twMat]

@arunnbabu81

Or should I change the way I use fields. Instead of using shadow as field-value, should I use shadow as field-name and different field-values based on the tiddler type.

Existence of field is simpler and faster to filter because the you can do ...!has[shadow], rather than arbitrary field with value shadow. For the latter you’d have to investigate every field in the tiddlers, or at least a defined list of fields.

[arunnbabu81]

@twMat

Existence of field is simpler and faster to filter because the you can do ...!has[shadow], rather than arbitrary field with value shadow. For the latter you’d have to investigate every field in the tiddlers, or at least a defined list of fields.

The reason I chose this way was that I can have any number of fields with field-value as shadow. So I could add tiddlers to different categories by using different field-names and keep the same field-value shadow. So my OP remains relevant still. Is there any way to do that ?
I am thinking of adding a tag shadow or field shadow:yes to all these tiddlers so that I can easily filter them out.

[twMat]

OK, sure, here is one solution to

filter tiddlers based on field-value alone, not the field-name

\define fieldwithvalue()
<$list filter='[all[tiddlers]$(field)$[shadow]]'>

</$list>
\end

<$list filter='[fields[]]' variable=field>
<<fieldwithvalue>>
</$list>

It is probably possible to do it more compactly.

[arunnbabu81]

How to use this in the code for random tiddler based on the random filter operator by @Yaisog

<$let numberOfShadows={{{ [all[shadows]count[]] }}}>
  <$button actions="""<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/persistent-shadow" $value={{{ [random<numberOfShadows>] }}} />""">
    Click here
  </$button>
</$let>
<$reveal type="nomatch" text="" state="$:/temp/persistent-shadow">
  <$text text={{{ [all[shadows]sort[]nth{$:/temp/persistent-shadow}] }}} />
</$reveal>

Instead of listing the shadow tiddlers, I want to have random tiddler from a list of my note tiddlers. For that I have to exclude the tiddler with field-value as shadow.

@twMat How to use the code shared by you in the above post in this random tiddler code

[twMat]

Before digging into this, I just want to make sure I don’t misunderstand what it is you want:

@arunnbabu81

I want to have random tiddler from a list of my note tiddlers. For that I have to exclude the tiddler with field-value as shadow.

“All your note tiddlers” are all tiddlers except shadow tids, or are “note tiddlers” distinguished in some other way?

…and of these, you want a random one but it must not have a field with the value shadow

Correct?

BTW, just so no misunderstanding, you do know that “shadow tiddlers” and the filter all[shadow] has nothing to do with the field value shadow, right? The latter is just a value set by the user (you!) and not by the TW system.

[arunnbabu81]

@twMat

“All your note tiddlers” are all tiddlers except shadow tids, or are “note tiddlers” distinguished in some other way?

yes. My note tiddlers have some fields for categorisation and sub categorisations.

@twMat

…and of these, you want a random one but it must not have a field with the value shadow

I want to somehow exclude those tiddlers with field-value shadow

@twMat

BTW, just so no misunderstanding, you do know that “shadow tiddlers” and the filter all[shadow] has nothing to do with the field value shadow, right? The latter is just a value set by the user (you!) and not by the TW system.

Ya. I know about shadow tiddlers in TW core. The tiddlers with field-value shadow are created by myself - these are mostly tweaks to different sections of the TW UI or TW function made by myself. I categorised them using different field-names based on the category they modify but with the same field-value shadow

[TW_Tones]

Also relevant to this thread which is awfully similar to a few of yours @arunnbabu81

Listing all tiddlers with the same field value, using the tabs macro?

I will just quickly point out using each and a nested list is relevant in many cases (if not this one) and if the field contains one value. <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]each[fieldname]get[fieldname]]" variable=fieldvalue> Each <<fieldvalue>><br> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]fieldname<fieldvalue>]" variable=tiddlername> <<tiddlername>> is a tiddler with <<fieldvalue>><br> </$list> </$list> each[fieldname]get[fieldname] is a common useful filter The inner list could have additi…

I am not sure if the topic splitting has being warranted here because this one answer of mine is relevant to the “Title words” in at least three of the topics.

[Justin_H]

@TW_Tones I figured splitting the discussion was a good idea considering my aim was to create a tabbed system to organize tiddlers by field value using the tabs macro and what I later learned, using tabTemplates, whereas the aim here seems to be slightly different, but still sorting by a specific fields value.
Mine was answered in my discussion, however it seems like talk is still going on here as far as how OP would like to use the field and/or field value of shadow.