Common names for different tiddler types

#1

The following tiddler types are a result of a personal brainstorm`. I present these to ask for suggestions or descriptions. I can later provide a tiddler glossary.

Please note the use of the word “Type” here is a word we use in English to categorise things and is only indirectly related to the “tiddler type field”.

CSS Tiddler

  • Stylesheet Tiddler Contains CSS and tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet

Data Tiddler types
Data Tiddler Refers to all tiddlers containing data but specifically Dictionary Tiddler and JSON Tiddlers

  • Index Tiddler
  • JSON Tiddler
  • Dictionary Tiddler

Template Tiddler

  • Content Template
  • Display Template
  • Edit Template
  • Form Tiddler
  • Functional Template (eg; listitem, macro in a template etc…)
  • Tiddler template
  • View Template

tiddler-types

  • Button Tiddler
  • Child Tiddler
  • Complex Tiddler
  • Composite Tiddler
  • Compound Tiddler
  • Config Tiddler
  • Content Template
  • CSS Tiddler
  • Current Tiddler
  • Data Tiddler Refers to all tiddlers containing data but specificaly Dictionary Tiddler and JSON Tiddlers
  • Display Template
  • Dynamic template
  • Form Tiddler
  • Functional Template
  • Import Tiddler
  • Index Tiddler
  • Instance Tiddler
  • JSON Tiddler
  • Library Tiddler
  • Macro Tiddler
  • Master Tiddler
  • Other Tiddlers
  • Parent Tiddler
  • Plain Tiddler
  • Raw Markup tiddler (more than one)
  • SideBar (tab) tiddler
  • Stand-alone Tiddler
  • State Tiddler
  • Static template
  • Story Tiddler
  • Stylesheet Tiddler Contains CSS and tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet
  • subtiddlers
    • A tiddler tagged to appear as a tab may be called a “tab tiddler” could be considered a subtiddler
  • tab tiddler (qualified by the tabset eg; Sidebar tabs, advanced search tabs…)
  • Temp Tiddler
  • Template Tiddler
  • Tiddler template
  • Wikitext tiddler
Definition: Pure Tiddler and Impure Tiddler
#2

That’s a lot of tiddler

Would header tiddler be there as well?tagged $:/tags/RawMarkup

#3

Seems a bit over-complex. Too many terms?

Given that the TW architecture can amalgamate fragments in infinite ways I’m doubtful that there could ever be a canonical listing that covered all “combo types” (complex transclusions / macro creations etc). Basically I, personally, find your presentation too baroque.

IMO “Type” is best used for “Content Type”.

Just a comment
TT

#4

I think, that’s confusing. I would name it “RawMarkup” tiddler

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#5

The thread heading, and one of the list headings, refers to “tiddler types” but isn’t that an established term with a certain meaning?

Out of curiosity: What is the purpose with this exercise?

#6

Tt

The world is complex. This was a brainstorm of tiddler types i have heard of or used and many are in the core. I believe we should embrace complexity and understand it before we over simplify. I reject the kis (keep it simple) principal because it never was Simple. Make it simple is the better approach, but to do so requires real insight and you start by collecting information and at least you have a reference.

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#7

Mat,

When the core or tiddlywiki uses a very generic term there will be overlap. Tiddlywiki’s type field does relate to a mime type. With the exception of media most user tiddlers are the default and need not even have the type field set.

@TiddlyTweeter This is one of the nicest complements I have ever received

In the real world and English we use the word “type” to systematically categorise tiddlers formally or informally eg “is it a shadow tiddler?” “is it a system tiddler?” is it a “Celebrity Quote tiddler”. The type field is rarely involved in distinguishing between tiddlers.

The point here people already use “type” and a strict definition is not possible. However when needed you can place the word in context and it will be considered Content Type as formally defined in tiddlywiki.

The purpose of the exercise is this discussion is at a minimum to satisfy this request about the definition of particular types Definition: Pure Tiddler and Impure Tiddler - #79 by CodaCoder

The collation of these titles is to make visible the “types of tiddlers” made reference to in the community, wikis and minds of designers. We discover things like the word “template tiddler” is overloaded in tiddlywiki and can be further divided.

Posting, makes public things in our minds we can “share and compare”.

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#8

@Ste_W and @pmario I will add “RawMarkup tiddler”,

In the same way it makes me ask do we have a name in use for tiddlers that are tagged above and below story etc…? OR how do we reference them?.

The pattern may be as we can have a “sidebar tiddler” we may also have an “above story tiddler” etc…

What do you think?

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#9

@TW_Tones I actually admire what you trying to do here.

Differentiation of TW lingo is good innit?

#10

@TW_Tones I simply think using “type” as the differential would end in confusion. Let me explain why … Sure we have Content Types (universal mime types) and Tiddler type modes (normal, shadow, overwritten shadow).

I think there is an underlying semantic issue if those two get mixed up. They are different levels.
I DO want to endorse your exploration. But slightly qualify it’s basis.

(I write this as a European living in the middle of baroque history.)

Best wishes
TT

#11

We agree, qualification is needed and placing something in context critical if one wants to reference content types or differentiate between core tiddlers, system, shadow, overwritten shadows (tiddlers) and regular tiddlers. The some core tiddlers are templates, some templates are view templates… We could try and map all these relationships however I would not be sure how many people would read it unless seeking a description.

I do feel a glossary with links to the documentation would be useful.

Are you aware of any I have missed?

#12

Also, “those that from afar look like flies”

#13

Do we have a set name for the two main types of template tiddlers?

I.E. when a tiddler is tagged with something, the viewtemplate is changed, vs. when a tiddler is cloned to have the same text field, to render a specific way, like a snippet?

#14

viewtemplate, edittemplate, and skeleton tiddler are often used informally. skeleton tiddler seems to fit the “clone then modify” pattern:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Creating%20new%20toolbar%20buttons

#15

Unfortunately no, but as @joshuafontany suggests there are some de facto names.

  • But a tiddler can be many things, so many things can have many types of template.

I tend to use the following terms to differentiate between common templates

  • Tiddler Template - for making tiddlers
    • Content template - for content smaller than a tiddler
    • Object template - which is for tiddlers I use to represent different objects like a contact template for making contact tiddlers. I set object-type-content on resulting tiddlers.
  • View Template - for displaying via view template
  • Edit Template - for displaying via the Edit template
  • Field template - not in use much yet by me but will

And templates for common tiddlywiki objects are often referred to like "button, theme, layout… template

The issue is that tiddlers, and TiddlyWikis templating features like transclusion are so versatile we attempted to do this once before and it was just too broad.