Chrome notification re: Timimi

#20

I’m really hoping Snap will go away. It blocked my password manager, so I was already looking for another solution and never realised it also interfered with Timimi.

Background: When you install Linux you also get a package distribution system with access to thousands of applications, such as Chrome. Recently The Ubuntu brand of Linux changed the way applications are installed, so that each one has all the dependencies it needs, but is also isolated from all the other applications. Maybe this analogy is broken, but imagine every application came in it’s own Docker container. After that, extensions that needed access to resources – executables – outside the installation container were broken.

What I did was to uninstall the distribution’s version and instead install the version from Mint, which hasn’t done the Snap thing. This also means I have to do manual updates.

I think the way other apps have gotten around this issue, and the Manifest 3 issues, is to basically run a little server. Then the extension communicates with the server rather than directly with an executable, which might be a security risk. I’m thinking of Joplin and Zotero. Hmm. Probably Obsidian too. All of these have some concept of where their data is located. For TW to have a similar solution, the user would have to define where their data lives, rather than the free-for-all we got used to with Timimi.

So running Rclone basically does the same thing – runs its own server, working from a user-defined data source (directory).

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#21

Still seems to be working in Edge, but will most likely get the same problem as Chrome Shortly.

#22

June is the expected enforcement date.

#23

I suppose it would be nice to know if it will also impact FireFox as well. FireFox has being consistently the refuge for TiddlyWiki except some time ago when it was also part of the “TiddlyWiki Apocolypse” which is in part what gave rise to Timimi

#24

Noooo, don’t go! Your one of the friendly helpful faces on here!
We can sort this out!

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#25

Not yet.

Chrome (Google) decided to create something that is called “manifest v3”, which is much more restrictive than manifest v2. Manifest files define the capabilities, which browser extensions are able to use. V3 was mainly developed to disable add-blockers and other extensions, that could hurt Googles add business. (while they did phrase it differently)

Mozilla has its own implementation of manifest v3 and also supports manifest v2. There are several blog posts. Here is a link to a recent one from Mozilla.

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#26

I hope you get it sorted out! I have a lot of processes that are based on TiddlyWiki. I don’t want to give up completely on TiddlyWiki.

But for now, until I see significant change, I am pivoting to Obsidian for productivity and important info, to custom apps (HTML editor tailored to my writing style, and a simple HTML that imitates a list-search) that ChatGPT created for me today for my Spanish materials, to Dynalist for free writing and brainstorming, and either Dynalist or Obsidian for notetaking based on reading.

I am just tired of it all. This was kind of like a last straw for me. It was good for me to go through this, and today was a liberating and energizing day for me. It also helped that I started reading Anne-Laure’s book Tiny Experiments today. She is great at getting me to think in creative ways.

#27

Hi! Unlike my Dad, I don’t have any browser restrictions, but I have had problems using timimi in firefox. Currently, I use Chrome solely to use my TWs and use firefox for everything else. When my TWs try to save in firefox, an error appears saying:

Timimi save FAILED
Error: No such native application
timimi

If there’s a way to fix this issue on firefox, I’d be quite happy switching over.

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#28

I’ve never encountered that issue myself, but I’d probably start by making sure you have the appropriate .exe installed as per the Timimi site, and perhaps try reinstalling if everything appears correct. Good luck!

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#29

Just to be clear, you downloaded and successfully ran the executable that works with timimi?

( Releases · ibnishak/Timimi · GitHub )

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#30

Thanks!! I think I had forgotten to install the .exe back when I switched from Chrome to Firefox. Honestly, I forgot there was one :sweat_smile: I already tried it out and it works. Thanks again!!! :grinning:

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#31

That’s odd. There’s no “Chrome” in the Bible. But the original Firefox is.

#32

LOL…actually they didn’t force me to switch to Chrome. A few years ago they strongly recommended it, and I dragged my feet until I had issues with TiddlyWiki on Firefox (I don’t remember what it was), and I also saw Firefox’s number of users dwindling. So I decided it was time to make the switch.

I will keep “Use TiddlyWiki on Firefox” as an option in addition to the others mentioned in this thread, to consider in the near future. But for right now I want to explore the options that have been arrayed before me today (Obsidian, simple HTML tools).

#33

When you’re thinking about other options, don’t forget to factor in how much it might cost you to synch your devices. Unless of course you’ve got a really open budget :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :money_with_wings:

Although Obsidian is superior to Joplin in many ways, the one important way it is not is in synching. With Joplin you can synch to your Google Drive or One Drive account for free. Unless things have changed, that is not true for Obsidian.

Also, if you don’t want to go down another rabbit hole, avoid Obsidian. (“Oh say, THAT looks interesting …”) :wink: But I digress.

#34

Obsidian costs $4 a month for cloud hosting and syncing between devices. I could probably justify it on my work budget. Or more likely have work start paying for my website hosting and I pay for Obsidian. Win/win.

And yes, there are many plugins, themes and CSS possibilities in Obsidian, so the rabbit hole definitely applies! But since I don’t plan to use it for web publishing (that’s another $4 a month), I won’t be as obsessive as I am about styles in TiddlyWiki where I want it to look “just so” in order to publish content.

#35

Hello

I use tiddlywiki, 2 of them, for work. Timimi, with single local file is for me the best solution.
I dont want to load the business network every time I save my tiddlywikis.

4mb up and down in the network, loading and saving,is not a minimalist way.
All is monitored so timimi and local file is the solution.

I dont want use node.js too, even in local, timimi is simplest.

Chrome doesn’t work with timimi now, Firefox remains for how much time?

Tiddlywiki in my opinion has 2 problems that can be solved once you know how to do it:

  • saving single file
  • images (for not increase the size when using single file)

Please dont loose timimi…
thanks

#36

I just tried Tiddlystow. Seems to work well. If you download it locally and just save a bookmark on the bookmarks bar, you can click it open. It shows a list of recently opened TWs. I think it’s great. But I’ve used it just for 2 minutes, so.

#37

The main problem is that the relative path to external files is different. Not a problem if you don’t use external files and I think there’s a workaround using symlinks, but something to keep in mind.

#38

Hello friends. I’ve been using GitHub - buggyj/savetiddlers, which still works with Chrome, but you have to re-enable it every time you start the browser. Hope this helps somehow!

#39

For me the nativesaver plugin works well. Dave said he some sort of problem, but I wonder if that was just a conflict with the Timimi extension.

With the nativesaver plugin, you have a portable solution that works on (probably) any chrome-based browser (most of the alternate browsers are actually chromium-based). It doesn’t require an extension or a separate executable.

You do need to check the " Allow FS to use indexedDB? (some security issues since everything on file:// has the same origin)" option if you don’t want to be bugged for a save directory every time. If you’re a celebrity or an international spy, then maybe that would be a problem, IMO.